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Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


Sean K - Apr 02, 2004 10:52:02 am PST #3662 of 10289
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I really dislike this argument. It presupposes that there's only room for one new thread, and positions tv thread supporters against the politics thread.

I can see your point here, Wolfram, but I disagree. Or at least... yes, that's one way to interpret it, but...

But the other problem is not "we only have room for one more thread," but instead that with each new thread, the anti-proliferation camp (whose position has some merit) gets more opposed to new threads.

This being a pop-culture board in origin, it seems more appropriate the a general TV thread have less of an uphill battle to get created than a politics thread.


Cashmere - Apr 02, 2004 10:52:16 am PST #3663 of 10289
Now tagless for your comfort.

I like the scattered talk. Of course, I'm guilty of it, but hey. I like the fact that threads of conversation pop up wherever we are. It adds to the feel of community, for me, where I'm feeling more and more that the thread spread has, in concert with increased numbers of people and speed of posting, lead to the everyone's alone in a crowd feel. Plus, seems people do more picking and sticking with threads, so that they become not so much subcultures, but completely independent cultures.

I should have just waited to comment so I could have said, "What Plei said." This is EXACTLY how I feel.


Topic!Cindy - Apr 02, 2004 10:56:37 am PST #3664 of 10289
What is even happening?

But the other problem is not "we only have room for one more thread," but instead that with each new thread, the anti-proliferation camp (whose position has some merit) gets more opposed to new threads.

This. This is the idea I meant to express. Thanks Sean, and thanks Wolfram, for pointing out the problems with mine, so that Sean could articulate what I wanted to say. I'm middle of the road on proliferation. I like that the threads here are controlled. I don't like to think of our current thread list as some kind of dead-document-constitution, either though, particularly with Buffy and Firefly gone, Angel going, and Wonderfalls so iffy.


Wolfram - Apr 02, 2004 11:06:11 am PST #3665 of 10289
Visilurking

But the other problem is not "we only have room for one more thread," but instead that with each new thread, the anti-proliferation camp (whose position has some merit) gets more opposed to new threads.

Sean, the "anti-proliferation camp" is always going to be anti-new threads in general. And granted, each new thread makes the creation of another thread, to some degree, a little less palatable to the APC. But by that logic, each closed thread should make the creation of a new thread a little more palatable. We're closing deathmatch. We recently closed the holiday thread. Does that mean the Politics thread gets, to some degree, more support from the APC?

The APC also takes into account other factors like the purpose of the thread and the demand for the thread. I don't think any one in the APC says no to a thread, solely because the thread count is too high. So it's never the politics thread or the TV thread. Of course arguing about the APC is like arguing about what the lurkers want, there's no way to prove or disprove their intentions. But is there anyone here who would vote down a proposed TV thread substantially because we opened a politics thread?

This being a pop-culture board in origin, it seems more appropriate the a general TV thread have less of an uphill battle to get created than a politics thread.

The moratorium on the general TV thread ended in September. Nobody has proposed a general TV thread since then. If and when that happens, we'll see what kind of uphill battle it does or does not have. But to claim that it would have more of an uphill battle at this point is speculative and premature.


Sean K - Apr 02, 2004 11:14:03 am PST #3666 of 10289
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Well, like I said, I understand your point, but I disagree that it's a disingenuous or meritless argument.


Wolfram - Apr 02, 2004 11:16:32 am PST #3667 of 10289
Visilurking

Well, like I said, I understand your point, but I disagree that it's a disingenuous or meritless argument.

Well that's because you're a stoopidhead.


Sean K - Apr 02, 2004 11:18:18 am PST #3668 of 10289
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Nuh uh, you are.


Wolfram - Apr 02, 2004 11:20:42 am PST #3669 of 10289
Visilurking

Am not.


Sean K - Apr 02, 2004 11:23:47 am PST #3670 of 10289
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Are so.

::ahem::

Right. Political thread....


DavidS - Apr 02, 2004 11:24:49 am PST #3671 of 10289
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Okay now that the stoopidhead resolution has been passed...

(We did a backchannel bullshit consensus. You both won!)