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Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


Typo Boy - Mar 24, 2003 11:58:01 am PST #366 of 10289
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

God, I just engaged in obnoxious windbaggery again. What I mean is that if ithe people who have said on multiple occasions that preferential voting is ultra-alienating to them will stand aside just this once, I think it would be great, but we need to live with multi-ballot run-off this once, if they won't. And in either case we need to get the question of preferential voting in the queue as soon as possible.

I'll delete the previous much longer post.


Jon B. - Mar 24, 2003 12:01:13 pm PST #367 of 10289
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

But I get mixed up -- which votes get recounted? When? Why?

Did the wording in my rewrite answer those questions?


Jesse - Mar 24, 2003 12:04:33 pm PST #368 of 10289
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Yeah, basically. It still gets tangled up in my brane.


Typo Boy - Mar 24, 2003 12:06:52 pm PST #369 of 10289
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Jesse - to try and make an argument for multi-ballot run-off since you are arguing on substance, does the following confuse you.

We have decided to close discussion when an issue is brought to a vote. We need to decide between six, four and three months.

1) Do you vote "no preference" on this issue? If you do, no choices are allowed on remaining questions.

2)What is your preference between six, four, and three months?

3) In the even that no option wins a majority, and your preference wins the least number of votes, what is your preference among the remaining options? (Answering question 2, does not require that you answer this question)


Jesse - Mar 24, 2003 12:09:36 pm PST #370 of 10289
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

The TOPIC does not confuse me. The VOTING does not confuse me. I just have trouble keeping straight whose second choices count when. That is all.


Jesse - Mar 24, 2003 12:10:33 pm PST #371 of 10289
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

And it's not about being "mathy" or whatever -- I'm plenty mathy. I guess my point is that I'm willing to do it, but can see why people don't want to.


Deena - Mar 24, 2003 12:11:32 pm PST #372 of 10289
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

Since I thought we agreed to try preferential voting once to see how it works out, I'm cool with doing it on this issue.


Typo Boy - Mar 24, 2003 12:12:42 pm PST #373 of 10289
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Jesse - are you cool with doing it this once to see how it works out?


Jesse - Mar 24, 2003 12:15:40 pm PST #374 of 10289
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I am fine with doing it. But I've always been fine with trying it. I was never one of the people against it. Those people, presumably, are still against it and I'd really rather not get into this whole stupid thing all over again. If the results will end up the same, and the process is only marginally more difficult, why not just let it go?


askye - Mar 24, 2003 12:16:49 pm PST #375 of 10289
Thrive to spite them

Jesse, it took me a while to figure this out. But it works like this:

3 mths 4 mths 6 mts

4 mth & 6mths tie.

In order to break the tie the 3 mths votes are looked at to see what the second choice votes were and then those are counted to break the tie.

So if I, hypothetically, picked 3 mths, 4mths, 6 mths. Then 4mths would be counted for the tie breaker because that was my second place vote.

This would be easier to describe with pictures.