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Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


Jon B. - Mar 24, 2003 11:47:55 am PST #361 of 10289
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Suggested rewrite:

PROPOSED BALLOT:

After a proposal, discussion and vote, further discussion on a given matter should be closed for:

3 months
4 months
6 months
No Preference

Please provide a second choice, should your first choice receive the least number of votes. This second choice will only be used if no first choice receives more than 50% of the votes. It will be used to resort the ballots of those whose first choice received the least number of votes. If you voted for one of the top two vote getters, your second choice will be ignored. It's like having an instant runoff.

3 months
4 months
6 months
No Preference

Note that this will apply to ALL decisions, affirmative and negative.


Jesse - Mar 24, 2003 11:50:15 am PST #362 of 10289
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

You know what? Seeing it like that makes me feel better. You can vote for 6 months and then No Preference, so as not to cheat on the Correct Number.


Jon B. - Mar 24, 2003 11:53:00 am PST #363 of 10289
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Thank you Jesse. As hard as it may be to believe, I'm not trying to be difficult.


Typo Boy - Mar 24, 2003 11:53:52 am PST #364 of 10289
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Jesse - Mar 24, 2003 11:54:47 am PST #365 of 10289
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I realize I feel like PV makes sense and everything, but honestly, when I try to think about it, I get confused. Which is silly. But I get mixed up -- which votes get recounted? When? Why? Telling me to rank my choices is easy -- it's when I get into the nuts and bolts I start to feel like a retarded monkey.


Typo Boy - Mar 24, 2003 11:58:01 am PST #366 of 10289
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

God, I just engaged in obnoxious windbaggery again. What I mean is that if ithe people who have said on multiple occasions that preferential voting is ultra-alienating to them will stand aside just this once, I think it would be great, but we need to live with multi-ballot run-off this once, if they won't. And in either case we need to get the question of preferential voting in the queue as soon as possible.

I'll delete the previous much longer post.


Jon B. - Mar 24, 2003 12:01:13 pm PST #367 of 10289
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

But I get mixed up -- which votes get recounted? When? Why?

Did the wording in my rewrite answer those questions?


Jesse - Mar 24, 2003 12:04:33 pm PST #368 of 10289
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Yeah, basically. It still gets tangled up in my brane.


Typo Boy - Mar 24, 2003 12:06:52 pm PST #369 of 10289
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Jesse - to try and make an argument for multi-ballot run-off since you are arguing on substance, does the following confuse you.

We have decided to close discussion when an issue is brought to a vote. We need to decide between six, four and three months.

1) Do you vote "no preference" on this issue? If you do, no choices are allowed on remaining questions.

2)What is your preference between six, four, and three months?

3) In the even that no option wins a majority, and your preference wins the least number of votes, what is your preference among the remaining options? (Answering question 2, does not require that you answer this question)


Jesse - Mar 24, 2003 12:09:36 pm PST #370 of 10289
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

The TOPIC does not confuse me. The VOTING does not confuse me. I just have trouble keeping straight whose second choices count when. That is all.