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Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


Jesse - Mar 24, 2003 8:37:28 am PST #341 of 10289
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I'm willing to count ballots.


Wolfram - Mar 24, 2003 8:38:04 am PST #342 of 10289
Visilurking

I hadn't thought of that, but technically the moratorium vote is up for a revote after the moratorium period. So for example if people feel 6 months was too long, it's not immutable.


§ ita § - Mar 24, 2003 10:15:43 am PST #343 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Jesse, I've pointed the vote@buffistas.org and votes@buffistas.org to point to your profile address.


Jesse - Mar 24, 2003 10:20:00 am PST #344 of 10289
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

If the 3 and 4 people can't come to an agreement, I propose we do an old-fashioned runoff. Have 6, 4, and 3 on the first ballot, if nothing gets 50%+1, vote again for the top two. It's not like this is so urgent it can't wait a few more days.


DavidS - Mar 24, 2003 10:29:10 am PST #345 of 10289
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

We need to agree that if an issue has more than two reasonable potential choices, there should Not be a strong bias towards limiting it to two choices - not if there is any significant support for a third option.

Concur. I think people have kicked it around enough that there is no strong bias on the low end towards 3 or 4, and that all options will need to be on the ballot.

Preferable if we could've gotten the ballot to two choices, but in this instance the most fair thing is to include 3, 4 and 6 on the ballot (and hope that 6 gets more than 50%).

It will have to be either a runoff or preferential voting, and I'm seeing an inclination for just doing the runoff now. However, there was tentative consensus (at one time) to just try the preferential voting and see how it worked. I don't care either way, but I'm willing to try the preferential voting to see how the community responds to it. Because that would make future votes easier. Also, I'll just reiterate the point brought up before - it may be the preferential voting is only difficult in the abstract. Once people do it a few times it might become more obvious. I'm willing to allow a learning curve on this.

As somebody noted in Bureaucracy, we've put ourself in a somewhat difficult position where we aren't really just discussing the issues, but crafting the ballot over here. That's okay - I think there's been enough discussion that folks see three viable options that need to be considered.


P.M. Marc - Mar 24, 2003 10:44:35 am PST #346 of 10289
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

As somebody noted in Bureaucracy, we've put ourself in a somewhat difficult position where we aren't really just discussing the issues, but crafting the ballot over here. That's okay - I think there's been enough discussion that folks see three viable options that need to be considered.

Eh, maybe. But what if someone today says "5. I like 5." does 5 go on the thing?

It's not like we're reinventing the wheel. I think I'm with JET on the whole mess.


Lyra Jane - Mar 24, 2003 10:48:07 am PST #347 of 10289
Up with the sun

Personally, I'd be happier with letting whatever got 34% win than with doing a runoff -- this is just not that important. But I know the People spoke against letting things win with less than 50%+.


Wolfram - Mar 24, 2003 10:48:38 am PST #348 of 10289
Visilurking

Eh, maybe. But what if someone today says "5. I like 5." does 5 go on the thing?

Nobody has. Somebody please draft a ballot so we can start nitpicking.


Wolfram - Mar 24, 2003 10:49:34 am PST #349 of 10289
Visilurking

Personally, I'd be happier with letting whatever got 34% win than with doing a runoff -- this is just not that important. But I know the People spoke against letting things win with less than 50%+.

IIRC, there was a vote.


Gus - Mar 24, 2003 10:51:01 am PST #350 of 10289
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

Congratulations to all on the debate. At no time did anyone resort to hurling the epithet 'sixist'. Very civilized.