Nice Jon, and thanks for the Pro/Con summary, it was helpful to me.
Poor Buffy. Your life resists all things average.
Willow ,'First Date'
Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!
We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!
Laura - Aug 23, 2003 6:33:55 am PDT #3352 of 10289
Our wings are not tired.
Deena - Aug 23, 2003 6:52:57 am PDT #3353 of 10289
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara
My attempt:
6) Consolidate Due South, Smallville and Farscape:
For: These shows could be considered genre, pulp or hoyay shows. The threads have many of the same posters and/or posters with similar interests. Combining them would allow posters to respond to more posts in the same thread, rather than spreading their responses across two or three threads.
Against: Each has, to some extent, become a subcommunity. Those who watch one particular show do not want to wade through discussion of the other two to discuss their particular show. Those who have not yet seen one or more of the shows but wish to discuss the one they do watch do not wish to be spoiled on show(s) they haven't seen. It is feared it could become a general TV thread.
Jon B. - Aug 23, 2003 7:01:03 am PDT #3354 of 10289
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!
Thanks Deena. I tightened up your attempt a little bit and added it to my much-edited post above.
Cindy - Aug 23, 2003 7:42:50 am PDT #3355 of 10289
Nobody
Jon - some of the points Kristen has made (as far as I can tell and remember, some of these are paraphrased from her post #3233 in this thread)
- We currently have 34 open threads
- We need to compromise and combine/delete some
- We don't have to panic (that's Kristen's job, and possibly panicking is unionized - I wasn't quite clear on that)
- We don't need to make core community damaging cuts (like deleting Natter/Bitches)
- Thread consolidation is necessary for board health
- Finding small ways to conserve will add up and help overall.
DCJensen - Aug 23, 2003 10:29:56 am PDT #3356 of 10289
All is well that ends in pizza.
6) Consolidate Due South, Smallville and Farscape:
If this goes through, may I suggest:
Southscape-1:
t insert name here
Description: Genreville. We go here to discuss programs like Due South, Smallville, Stargate SG-1, Farscape and other treasures. May contain mature content.
§ ita § - Aug 23, 2003 10:50:43 am PDT #3357 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Might I disagree with Daniel, who's left a door open for a generic TV thread, and debates about what's "like" those shows? I think we should consolidate existing discussion while understanding drift'll happen, but not putting it in the slug or description.
Cindy - Aug 23, 2003 11:01:19 am PDT #3358 of 10289
Nobody
Southscape-1: insert name here
Description: Genreville. We go here to discuss programs like Due South, Smallville, Stargate SG-1, Farscape and other treasures. May contain mature content.
It's cute, kicky and Buffista-like, but ita makes a great point. Kristen was pretty clear about us not being able to handle (and not wanting to attract) the traffic that a genre thread is likely bring.
How about a little modification, Daniel? Something like:
Southscapeville-1: <insert name here>
Description: The small, yet devoted Buffista fandoms of due South, Smallville, and Farscape live here. May contain mature content.
edited to change description)
(Michele - 'subcommunities' is so clinical. Look up. How's that?)
Michele T. - Aug 23, 2003 11:16:45 am PDT #3359 of 10289
with a gleam in my eye, and an almost airtight alibi
Description: The small, yet devoted Buffistas of due South, Smallville, and Farscape live here.
Small? I'm 5'7"!
"small yet devoted Buffista subcommunities of due South, Smallville, and Farscape fans live here."
Fay - Aug 23, 2003 1:23:11 pm PDT #3360 of 10289
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.
Is there a strong bullshit consensus for including Farscape in with the rest? I have no objection on a personal basis, but it doesn't seem (to me) to be a natural fit with the rest in that thread. It's, as I understand it (and being only a v. occasional viewer, rather than a proper fannish fan) good genre TV, with arcs and depth and Buffy-level goodness. I'd have thought it was worthy of its own thread, if there were room. If there's not room, then okay, hell with that, combine them all.
Noumenon - Aug 23, 2003 2:20:55 pm PDT #3361 of 10289
No other candidate is asking the hard questions, like "Did geophysicists assassinate Jim Henson?" or "Why is there hydrogen in America's water supply?" --defective yeti
Is there a strong bullshit consensus for including Farscape in with the rest?
I threadsucked. Betsy HP, askye, brenda m, SeanK, SA, and Fay didn't think it belonged with the rest. Consuela, Katie M, and ita had no problems with consolidation. DavidS didn't want any of them consolidated. SeanK, Consuela, and Jess PMoon said they'd be OK with cutting the thread entirely.