I'm also thinking that some explanation for the cleaning is in order.

You mean, "Why we need to do this" sort of preamble?

And how does that fix anything? That just keeps you where you are, working at least twice the allowable number of mySQL connections.

Monique -- You and Kristen need to be consistant. She and ita are saying not to panic about sql connections just yet. Let's see if the coding changes do the trick. I see Kat's proposal is simple housekeeping. Trying to get rid of threads that are redundant or else low traffic AND without a vested subcommunity.

And I apologize if I'm mischaracterizing ita's and Kristen's posts.

But not if #4 passes.

And if it does pass? Means that most voters thought it was a redundancy.

Perhaps it's just me (it's probably just me) but I find the campaigning confusing when it takes place alongside the informational/clarification discussion.

You and Kristen need to be consistant. She and ita are saying not to panic about sql connections just yet.

We are consistent. I'm not advocating panicing. If I were, there'd be more EXCLAIMING!!!

I am, however, advocating making some changes, just as Kristen mentioned in her post from earlier today. I just feel that taking the tact that "we can't do x, y, or z because it might upset someone" and "let's just do something that will have a BIG IMPACT!" could lead to nothing being done. Little things add up. That's all I'm saying.

Monique -- You and Kristen need to be consistant.

I do not hear their posts as inconsistent. I hear Kristen saying not to panic, but to move forward with little changes that we think will streamline things. And I hear Monique saying basically the same thing, but with more emphasis on the fact that little changes *will* make a difference.

Monique -- You and Kristen need to be consistant. She and ita are saying not to panic about sql connections just yet. Let's see if the coding changes do the trick. I see Kat's proposal is simple housekeeping. Trying to get rid of threads that are redundant or else low traffic AND without a vested subcommunity.

I read Kristen as saying we need to clean up, but not panic (as in - not undergo a huge fundraising drive and go get a dedicated server before we know if we need it, and to not gut the board (like closing Natter or Bitches)). I did see her say the several small threads are a drain because of how it works (i.e. I end up posting to you about nutmeg in this thread, to ita about it in Bitches, and to Laura about it in Spoilers). Housecleaning isn't panicking. It's been something we've been talking about for months.

And honestly Jon? When we can't add one new thread, because it might kill us, the little redundancies start to hurt us. We have 6 threads in which to discuss Angel, but we can't add one to talk about TV (or beagles, or whatever) in general. Angel reruns seemingly can't find a home in Buffy, Angel, UnAmericans, Atlantic Canadians, Natter or Bitches, but everyone is supposed to squeeze everything else into the Natter thread? It's preposterous.

So what? It's what we do, and what we've always done, in almost all of the threads since we were on TableTalk.

I said that in direct response to your note of the volume of LotR. Sure it's high volume. How high is it if you take out natter - natter that could also happen in Movies (or you know - Natter)?

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DX - to clarify. Some discussion needs a home. Some discussion occurs, because there's nothing going on at home. Movies (if the Movies citizens don't think LotR will be too overwhelming) can serve as a suitable home for LotR discussion. But there are times when there are just posts in LotR because it's there. And yes, that does happen in every thread, and because it happens in every thread, it's one of the reasons streamlining out some threads, might end up adding up to something that helps a little.

I said that in direct response to your note of the volume of LotR. Sure it's high volume. How high is it if you take out natter - natter that could also happen in Movies (or you know - Natter)?

Quite frankly what natter I recall in the thread has been concerned with things close to the topic anyway, so would probably have occurred in the movie thread as the subjects came up as well. And either pissed those folks off, or encouraged them to join the tangent, creating a natter synergy.

I'm confused why there can't be one thread to discuss all Buffy episodes and Angel reruns. Hasn't everyone seen the Buffy finale? If that's so then every Buffy episode qualifies for the Previously thread anyway.

Exactly -- we're about halfway (or a little more) through the last Buffy thread -- when that's done won't all Buffy discussion occur in Previously -- and as I said, I think that Angel repeats will naturally be discussed in Previously too.

Wonder if we'll ever get the serendipitous airing of Buffy/Angel x-overs in the correct order?

Monique -- You and Kristen need to be consistant.

You know, I need to not feel like I have to come back in here and clarify things. Monique was nice enough to take over posting today, on her day off, so that I could get some work done at my actual job since I haven't done much of that this week. The truly amusing thing about all this is that she has been keeping me updated on all her posts and the resulting questions so that we would be consistent.

So I don't see how we're being inconsistent. In the very same post where I told people not to panic, I also said, "There are 34 open threads right now. There has to be some reasonable way to compromise and combine/delete some of those." Monique and I are saying the exact same thing which is:

No, don't panic.

No, we don't need to discuss deleting Natter/Bitches.

Yes, thread consolidation is necessary for the future health of this board.

Yes, deleting redundant threads is necessary for the future health of this board.

Yes, finding small ways to use fewer resources will add up to a nice-sized postive change overall.

I'm at a loss. Just when I think we're making progress in some direction, the discussion takes a turn towards left field. I can't keep up anymore. But if people truly feel that we're being inconsistent or talking out of both sides our mouths or whatever, then I don't know what to tell you, other than maybe Fangeek isn't as good of a fit for this community as we had hoped it would be.