Have the UKers seen all of the Firefly episodes at this point? If so, I would vote for consolidating the spoiler and main thread. If not, consolidate them when they have seen them all.

I love the quotable threads, and hope we get a chance to keep Buffy open long enough to finish the death matches, but the Board is more important, so I guess I'd say close and archive them.

The threads were separate because they've seen them all, Perkins, not until.

That's true. I was thinking that now that the major discussion of unaired episodes had passed, maybe we wouldn't need both, but I guess that wouldn't work. Maybe we could consolidate them when the DVDs come out.

We haven't had the quote of the day going long enough to determine if it makes a huge difference to - ah, whatever it is that's going wrong. Maybe that's enough to fix things for the board?

Maybe?

Please?

Elena, I think the house keeping discussion would be happening anyhow, even if we did have all the resources in the world.

I have to say, I think that the stupidest suggestion I've seen so far is that we get rid of Natter and Bitches so that we can continue to cater to the 10 peeps who want to discuss X, Y, or Z in the individie threads, and so we can keep separate Quotables, Previously, Spoilers, Semi-Spoilers, etc, for each and every ME show.

If we want to get serious about cutting, start with the stuff that seems extraneous. But it looks to me like folks aren't willing to even lose that.

If we cut Natter & Bitches, then really, we should have three threads and three threads only, Buffy, Angel, and Firefly. Is that what we want?

Oh, and I am all for Allyson's suggestion to Archive the closed threads elsewhere.

Burrell and I see this similiarly I think.

Let's talk about putting what came from Natter back into Natter and what came from Bitches back into Bitches.

Does the clean counter metaphor work in reverse? And, hey, it might be nice to have those threads denser again.

If you close Natter and Bitches, it'll just invade the other threads, and relevant discussion of the shows will only be lost in the fast-moving conversations on everything else--which, I believe, was the motivation for creating Natter and Bitches. I don't get in here as much as I like these days, and the only way I can keep up in the main threads is because hte general conversations are over in Natter (which I don't bother following) and Bitches (which, to my sorry, I only read the last few posts of every night and comment if the latest subject is something I can speak on).

I am sorry to see that the search function has been moved to the pie in the sky shelf, but hardly a major trauma.

I came for Buffy. I found Bitches. I'm still here for Bitchy Fic.

Being UnAmerican, I will be unsubbing from some threads when the surges start: I don't even want to be spoiled for Smallville. I'm not keeping up with Bitches at the moment, but I certainly won't be trying to if people discuss SV or Angel in there. When the time comes for me to catch up, I don't want to go through dS and F posts looking for SV discussion, because they really aren't on my radar and heaven knows I don't need another fandom; and I want to go to the Angel thread for Angel discussion. And when I want to know how people are, I read the annoucement threads and Bitches.

Combining PPO and Bitchy Fic is a good plan (I've been known to write SV/Buffy crossovers. One thread, more fandoms? Better for me.) but GWW is something different. There are writers here who take part in both, but I think it's very important that people be allowed to talk original writing without fanfic talk getting in the way. They are related, but they're different creatures: and if you put them in the same cage, one will eat the other.

Have the UKers seen all of the Firefly episodes at this point? If so, I would vote for consolidating the spoiler and main thread. If not, consolidate them when they have seen them all.

Yes, we've seen them all. The reason for not consolidating is that the the three US-unaired eps remain spoilers for US viewers who are holding out and waiting for the DVDs. When the DVDs arrive, if there are no spoilers in sight for the movie, then FFS can be closed; but not before. It wouldn't be fair to spoil the USians who've been so kind about not spoiling UKers in those threads.

Personally, I think that the Firefly quotables thread can be closed (we can quote Firefly in FF or FFS when we feel like it); that the Angel quotables thread goes on as before while the season's running (I'll have a binge and read all season five's posts when they're no longer spoilers); and that the Buffy thread naturally closes at the end of the deathmatches.

It's tempting to say 'why aren't we doing FF deathmatches?' but the answer is that the spoilers are still a problem, and that while I'd love to run them, I don't have time.

Post-DVDs and if the movie doesn't appear, I can see that Firefly and Farscape may have enough in common that they combine: Ff and F, Cancelled Shows We'll Always Love. That seems to me to be more natural than combining F, dS, and SV.

Bitches Anthology I'm not sure about. I think Bitch writers need to discuss what happens to it, and that discussion should probably happen in the thread itself: I don't know who's subbed or how they feel about it. It may have died; it may just be resting.

Sang Sacre is resting. Nail it to the perch if you must, but leave there and ready to fly again when a nice fijord happens to walk by.

We should keep Sang Sacre open as housing for people exiled from Bitches and Natter. Otherwise I see Mejiaville becoming a shantytown, while a booming Nillytown has to annex Smallville...