I don't have any problem with relocating closed threads. And I've said I can live with cutting the Farscape thread (and any other non-ME-verse thread, although the fic thread would be painful), particularly if it can be shown that it would actually help the situation.

I'm not being difficult; but at this point it's unclear what particular actions we could take that would make an appreciable difference, given that, as I understand it, there's a problem with the code not closing connections.

No, we think [hope] that it's just a coding problem. But it may not be. If we had 180 users active at this board, it is entirely possible that the problem is just too many users, too many threads, too many posts.

I'm dead serious about ditching Natter. I doubt it will ever pass a vote, but that's what needs to go.

Losing the Farscape thread will have the net effect of a hamster fart in a hurricane. Loosing Natter or Bitches will make a difference.

Would it be a good idea then (and I generally hate this thought, but what the hell) to close the board to new memberships just until we get this figured out? It won't affect unregistered readers, but might at least forestall an influx of new posters when Angel comes back on or if there's a big FF announcement or something.

If we had 180 users active at this board, it is entirely possible that the problem is just too many users, too many threads, too many posts.

In which case I think we should consider voting people off.

Cause, dude, total good use of voting. Think of it as a daily recall election.

Or not.

If we want to eliminate bloat, then by all means lets toss Natter and Bitches. Cause those are the majorly high traffic resource hogs. With the death matches, quotables has been so much fun, but often filled with one liner posts. Or maybe we could have a yea or nay on all threads and only the most popular win.

But each of these has a much larger effect on the nature of the board then the cleanup we are doing.

So, it comes back to who are we? What do we want to be?

I doubt it will ever pass a vote

People can vote themselves into People's Forum, then, you know?

So, it comes back to who are we? What do we want to be?

We are a community with a smoldering house, and we want to be finding the fire extinguisher before we have to spend 40 years in the desert.

In which case I think we should consider voting people off.

And here we are.

It goes hand in hand with the "toss Bitches and Natter" plan. I love it.

Now we're gettin' medieval on the problem.

It's a problem. Natter and Bitches are for many people where the community actually lives. The show threads are where the show discussion takes place, but a lot of us got to know each other in Natter.

I don't know what the response would be to a proposal to close those two threads. On the other hand, if it's a question of Natter or massive closure and consolidation of everything else not very directly show-related? Hmmm.

I don't know what the response would be to a proposal to close those two threads.

I would expect it to be pretty overwhelmingly negative, for this reason:

It's a problem. Natter and Bitches are for many people where the community actually lives.

But if it's those two threads or the entire board, well, we'll learn to live without them. We'll start nattering in the show threads again. [edited to not sound INCREDIBLY harsh and mean. some typos are bad!]

Losing the Farscape thread will have the net effect of a hamster fart in a hurricane. Loosing Natter or Bitches will make a difference.

And when Natter/Bitches have moved to other threads, we'll keep consolidating down until...one thread with LOTS OF WHITEFONT? I mean, given that Natter fills the vacuum (i.e. any thread it can) do we become No-Natter Nazis? I don't mind bailing on Natter and Bitches, because the reason they came into being (i.e. swamping the Buffy thread) doesn't exist, as long as we have an Angel show thread seperate from all the the other discussion (plus spoilers, quotes, etc., within reason).