We die horribly and painfully, you go to hell and I spend eternity in the arms of baby Jesus.

Gunn ,'Not Fade Away'


Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


brenda m - Aug 20, 2003 7:16:14 pm PDT #3093 of 10289
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Would it be a good idea then (and I generally hate this thought, but what the hell) to close the board to new memberships just until we get this figured out? It won't affect unregistered readers, but might at least forestall an influx of new posters when Angel comes back on or if there's a big FF announcement or something.


Kat - Aug 20, 2003 7:17:10 pm PDT #3094 of 10289
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

If we had 180 users active at this board, it is entirely possible that the problem is just too many users, too many threads, too many posts.

In which case I think we should consider voting people off.

Cause, dude, total good use of voting. Think of it as a daily recall election.

Or not.

If we want to eliminate bloat, then by all means lets toss Natter and Bitches. Cause those are the majorly high traffic resource hogs. With the death matches, quotables has been so much fun, but often filled with one liner posts. Or maybe we could have a yea or nay on all threads and only the most popular win.

But each of these has a much larger effect on the nature of the board then the cleanup we are doing.

So, it comes back to who are we? What do we want to be?


Allyson - Aug 20, 2003 7:19:41 pm PDT #3095 of 10289
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I doubt it will ever pass a vote

People can vote themselves into People's Forum, then, you know?

So, it comes back to who are we? What do we want to be?

We are a community with a smoldering house, and we want to be finding the fire extinguisher before we have to spend 40 years in the desert.


Sean K - Aug 20, 2003 7:20:36 pm PDT #3096 of 10289
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

In which case I think we should consider voting people off.

And here we are.

It goes hand in hand with the "toss Bitches and Natter" plan. I love it.

Now we're gettin' medieval on the problem.


Consuela - Aug 20, 2003 7:22:06 pm PDT #3097 of 10289
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

It's a problem. Natter and Bitches are for many people where the community actually lives. The show threads are where the show discussion takes place, but a lot of us got to know each other in Natter.

I don't know what the response would be to a proposal to close those two threads. On the other hand, if it's a question of Natter or massive closure and consolidation of everything else not very directly show-related? Hmmm.


Jessica - Aug 20, 2003 7:25:45 pm PDT #3098 of 10289
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I don't know what the response would be to a proposal to close those two threads.

I would expect it to be pretty overwhelmingly negative, for this reason:

It's a problem. Natter and Bitches are for many people where the community actually lives.

But if it's those two threads or the entire board, well, we'll learn to live without them. We'll start nattering in the show threads again. [edited to not sound INCREDIBLY harsh and mean. some typos are bad!]


Frankenbuddha - Aug 20, 2003 7:28:05 pm PDT #3099 of 10289
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Losing the Farscape thread will have the net effect of a hamster fart in a hurricane. Loosing Natter or Bitches will make a difference.

And when Natter/Bitches have moved to other threads, we'll keep consolidating down until...one thread with LOTS OF WHITEFONT? I mean, given that Natter fills the vacuum (i.e. any thread it can) do we become No-Natter Nazis? I don't mind bailing on Natter and Bitches, because the reason they came into being (i.e. swamping the Buffy thread) doesn't exist, as long as we have an Angel show thread seperate from all the the other discussion (plus spoilers, quotes, etc., within reason).


Sean K - Aug 20, 2003 7:28:28 pm PDT #3100 of 10289
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

It's a problem. Natter and Bitches are for many people where the community actually lives.

Yup. I came for Buffy. I stayed for the natter.


Sean K - Aug 20, 2003 7:30:41 pm PDT #3101 of 10289
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

And, of course, since we've expressed a desire to keep the Buffy thread open, we close Bitches and Natter, and Buffy absorbs them both, though again at a net loss in volume (though whether even that's good enough still remains to be seen).


Kat - Aug 20, 2003 7:33:22 pm PDT #3102 of 10289
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

It's a problem. Natter and Bitches are for many people where the community actually lives. The show threads are where the show discussion takes place, but a lot of us got to know each other in Natter.

I think this is the heart of it, on some level. We started or came here because of Buffy and many stayed for other reasons.

On the other hand, if it's a question of Natter or massive closure and consolidation of everything else not very directly show-related?

Do you mean upper or lower-case natter?

Other "solutions" designed to thin the herd:
1. Even/Odd Posting days. Justl like filling the car tank. You got an even user #, you get three days. You got an odd user #, you get three days. And then there is a day of rest.

2. The Elitist Solution. People with numbers over 500 are cutoff.

3. The next person who numbersluts is summarily shot.

Um. Those were all I had.

But if the eliminate Natter and/or Bitches is serious, then I would propose people pick one to save or kill both of them.

massive xpost