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Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


Lyra Jane - Aug 19, 2003 6:58:16 am PDT #2851 of 10289
Up with the sun

That's probably true, Katie.

I admit, I just feel like since May (in fact, since we knew there would be no S8), we've been saying "we have to redo the thread hierarchy now that Buffy's off the air," and since May, it's been put off until August. Now we're saying that for technical reasons, it should wait until October. Who's to say that in October, we won't feel like we have equally compelling reasons to put it off? I don't think having dead threads or unclear thread titles is the worst thing in the world, but I do think that if it can be done relatively painlessly (both technically and socially), we may as well do it now.

This is probably my impatient side talking, isn't it?


Jessica - Aug 19, 2003 7:05:28 am PDT #2852 of 10289
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

What I wonder is if, by consolidating some threads and archiving others, we could effectively "cancel out" the impact a new thread would have on the database.

Not really. Threads we're likely to want to close/consolidate/archive are going to be the lowest-traffic ones. (Buffy Spoilage Lite, for example -- sure, we could close it, but that wouldn't affect our server usage since people aren't reading or posting in it.) New threads will increase posting volume, and tax the server even more than we're doing now.

So unless we're archiving threads and replacing them with lower-volume ones, no, consolidating threads won't offset the traffic increase from adding new ones.


Katie M - Aug 19, 2003 7:17:02 am PDT #2853 of 10289
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

Oh, I wouldn't mind going ahead and consolidating at least now, whether or not it had any effect on our resource drain. I already said I think Quotables should close with Elena's post of the One True Buffy Quote. Buffy Spoilers Light can obviously go. Then we just have to decide whether to dump Previously or the main topic - I'd vote Previously. That'd be satisfying on a cleaning-up-the-house level, at least.

We'd have to do another proposal, though.


Consuela - Aug 19, 2003 7:17:04 am PDT #2854 of 10289
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

A lot of natter moved from Natter to Bitches in the last few months, particularly when there was a lot of interpersonal disruption. That said, I don't think the overall level of natterish posting has gone down in any way. There's a ton of natter going on in Lit, F2F, and sundry other threads.

It does begin to sound to me like we need a dedicated server, and that's a sizeable piece of change to drum up. We need a sugar daddy.


Jessica - Aug 19, 2003 7:20:08 am PDT #2855 of 10289
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Then we just have to decide whether to dump Previously or the main topic - I'd vote Previously.

Except that Angel's about to go into syndication, and I think people were expecting to use Previously for that.


Sean K - Aug 19, 2003 7:20:49 am PDT #2856 of 10289
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I admit, I just feel like since May (in fact, since we knew there would be no S8), we've been saying "we have to redo the thread hierarchy now that Buffy's off the air," and since May, it's been put off until August. Now we're saying that for technical reasons, it should wait until October.

Maybe I'm misreading things, but I think we're actually not putting off the restructuring of our threads until October, we're talking about putting off talk of a new TV thread until we've restructured.


Kat - Aug 19, 2003 7:22:02 am PDT #2857 of 10289
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

I think we're actually not putting off the restructuring of our threads until October, we're talking about putting off talk of a new TV thread until we've restructured.

This makes sense to me.


Katie M - Aug 19, 2003 7:22:37 am PDT #2858 of 10289
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

Except that Angel's about to go into syndication, and I think people were expecting to use Previously for that.

Oh, good point. I'd forgotten Angel doesn't have its own Previously thread.

...and I just realized this conversation is already happening in Bureaucracy, so I'll move it there.


Fred Pete - Aug 19, 2003 7:27:36 am PDT #2859 of 10289
Ann, that's a ferret.

We've been saying since May that we need to restructure now that there's no more new Buffy. But there hasn't been any real discussion of what to do. Based on Kristen's comments, techno-not-really-literate I assume that restructuring now, especially if we add attractive new threads, could wreak havoc on the board.

I'm suggesting that we use this time to figure out what we really want to do and where we want the board to go.

IOW, my answer to

I admit, I just feel like since May (in fact, since we knew there would be no S8), we've been saying "we have to redo the thread hierarchy now that Buffy's off the air," and since May, it's been put off until August. Now we're saying that for technical reasons, it should wait until October.

is, let's start planning now with a target completion date in mind.


Jon B. - Aug 19, 2003 7:33:21 am PDT #2860 of 10289
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

It does begin to sound to me like we need a dedicated server

Right now, we don't know if it's a coding issue, or if our usage is really too high for a shared server.

Until we know one way or another, I agree that we should table this proposal.