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Anya ,'Dirty Girls'


Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


Laura - Jul 27, 2003 9:28:46 am PDT #2629 of 10289
Our wings are not tired.

I'd rather the voting got started already.

Yes.

Also, I will note that Jim is going to be pissed.

Has anyone sent him a message. Did we scare him off? Perhaps he is having tech trouble? I wish I knew.

eta: perhaps he is not around on the weekend.


DavidS - Jul 27, 2003 9:37:38 am PDT #2630 of 10289
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

perhaps he is not around on the weekend.

I think this is the case. Kristen has thoughtfully linked in some of the salient amending posts. Perhaps she could edit that to bring it up to date, otherwise he will say "Fuck it!"


Kat - Jul 27, 2003 9:52:49 am PDT #2631 of 10289
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

The part of my post you interpreted as a personal attack was on another topic entirely.

I didn't take it as a personal attack. Just thought I was clarifying something about what I had said.

It was not directed at any one person, nor was it a response to any specific post. Okay?

Sure. Okay.


Allyson - Jul 27, 2003 9:52:59 am PDT #2632 of 10289
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I find it upsetting that not one person in favor of the change is willing to entertain the possiblity that it might.

Untrue, I'm in favor of change, and before I shut down to get ready for dinner, I said that there were two issues on the table, 1) change, and 2) whether we could even vote on change without discussing whether or not we could have the vote re: grandpappy, and that we had to talk about grandpappy, first.


scrappy - Jul 27, 2003 9:54:36 am PDT #2633 of 10289
Nobody

Allyson--Did you get my email? And did you see what Joss wrote in Firefly?


brenda m - Jul 27, 2003 9:56:10 am PDT #2634 of 10289
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

You're right, Allyson, I'm sorry I missed that.

Can I ask why Jim would be pissed? I mean, beyond the fact that at times in this discussion we've all gotten a little upset, probably (on all sides) more than was warranted?

Also, as to voting, what's our timeline on this again? It seems like a lot of folks haven't been around this weekend, so I hope we'll at least give it through Monday.


Allyson - Jul 27, 2003 10:00:16 am PDT #2635 of 10289
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

No Scrappy, when did you send it? Is it the script? BOUNCE!


Kat - Jul 27, 2003 10:01:16 am PDT #2636 of 10289
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Allyson, go here: joss "Firefly 3: Too Damned Pretty to Die" Jul 27, 2003 8:57:57 am PDT


scrappy - Jul 27, 2003 10:02:30 am PDT #2637 of 10289
Nobody

I sent it to your profile addy--whihc I think is a Fury address?


brenda m - Jul 27, 2003 10:04:00 am PDT #2638 of 10289
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Last post from me on grandfathering, I swear.

At this point, I'm more than convinced that even if it did apply, it would do far more harm than good in this situation. I just bristled at the implication that bringing it up in the first place was somehow out of line. And I do understand that the unfortunate timing had something to do with the reactions.

Addressing Brenda's point here. I disliked it because it looked like a parliamentary end-run on necessary discussion.

But, I'm compelled to say mostly because I find it amusing, isn't that the whole point of the thing? I wasn't a supporter when it passed for that very reason. I'm not quite sure how I got here from there.

When we started making and enacting rules here we very consciously avoided to-the-letter prescriptions because we wanted common sense to have sway over thread-Lawyering.

Thank you for the reminder. I do think this is key to how we (should) function. Spoilers are indeed a tough case to apply this to, but it's a good thing to keep in the forefront of our minds.