Willow ,'Get It Done'
We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!
Couldn't I say the same thing to you about casting spoilers, though? Why does your opinion weigh more?
Oh, look, Trudy just said what I was going to say.
(edit) It has been brought to my attention that this post might be considered snarky. That was in no way my intention, I just read Trudy's post while I was about to post literally the same response and it struck me terribly funny.
Trudy, Elena, I'm just speculating here, but it does seem that Spoilers is now a subcommunity, who are increasingly going to the the Spoiler thread for general discussion, in order to protect the unspoiled from slips. A fair amount of time, Spoilers is pretty unSpoilery, and more Speculationy.
There is likely going to be an entire fast moving thread containing conversation in which you cannot take part. Are you okay with that? Because the way I see it, Spoilers is actually most often: Angel, with Casting Info.
I'm not really committed to anything. I get that if you're spoiled you can't be unspoiled, and I get the frustration about not discussing things in the show threads that are common knowledge. It feels like sticking our heads in the sand.
It reminded me of something though. Did we know that there would be a musical episode prior to the promos? Did we talk about it? I remember a link to one of the promos, but I honestly have no idea if it was a spoiler or not.
Thank you, Trudy. I appreciate that.
Spoilers is actually most often: Angel, with Casting Info.
Yes. This. Spoilers really has become its own community, natter and all, for the reasons I cited above.
We talked about cilantro and whether or not it grows from the devil's ass for 40 posts, yesterday.
There is likely going to be an entire fast moving thread containing conversation in which you cannot take part. Are you okay with that? Because the way I see it, Spoilers is actually most often: Angel, with Casting Info.
Allyson, I have been okay with that up to now. And if the spoiler policy gets loosened in the NAFDA threads I'm going to have to be okay with missing more threads.
The thing is - knowing stuff ahead of time - even stuff like who is signing on and who is leaving - diminishes my enjoyment of the show. In much the same way that spoiler-seekers have their enjoyment increased by knowing details and anticipating what's to come next, my enjoyment comes from the not knowing. From seeing things spool out ahead of me in ways that I cannot begin to know.
There is likely going to be an entire fast moving thread containing conversation in which you cannot take part. Are you okay with that? Because the way I see it, Spoilers is actually most often: Angel, with Casting Info.
I am much more ok with that than having to unsub from Bitches in order to enjoy the show as it unfolds.
It would be a horrible choice to have to make.
Yes, we have made changes to the FAQ since March 20th. In fact, we made a small change to it [the addition of Doblerize] on March 21st. And there was talk in April about adding our voting procedures to it but I don't think that has happened yet.
Yes, we have. The point was (and I am still hoping someone will prove me wrong) is that the grandfather clause was enacted on May 22, 2003, and there haven't been substantial changes to the faq since then (that I can find).
Am packing up my basement - just want to say again, I'm sorry I've offended some of you. I don't think quashing this proposal is going to do anything to improve board relations.
I understand that, Elena, but the climate is such that we had to mull over whether or not we could say that this was the last season of Buffy, lest it ruin your surprise of turning on UPN at 8pm on Tuesday this Fall and seeing the new Dan Cortese show that's going to be canceled.
That was a spoiler in that no character would be returning to Buffy.
I get that if you're spoiled you can't be unspoiled, and I get the frustration about not discussing things in the show threads that are common knowledge.
Heather, part of what frustrates me is that I have been spoiled by people who thought what they were talking about was common knowledge... It's not.
Sometimes those with knowledge forget that others don't know it too. Lemme examplify. I am frequently amazed that people don't know the difference between acetaminophen, ASA, and ibuprofen - because how could you not know that? Oh, right. Because they are not pharmacists. How can I not know that Ed Asner is replacing DB as the title character? Oh, right. Because I'm not a spoiler-seeker.