So if it's not widely discussed (and what's your definition of widely?) then it is a spoiler? Because that needs to be reflected in the proposal.
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§ ita § - Jul 25, 2003 9:58:00 am PDT #1949 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
P.M. Marc - Jul 25, 2003 9:58:19 am PDT #1950 of 10289
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
If AD is leaving Angel, for instance, how will the promos tell us this?
Given that they never bother to put him IN the general promos... it'd be kind of hard. Not that I'm bitter.
(Ahem)
Any cast members that they do tend to focus on in promos leaving, I think we'd tell by their absence. Or at least start speculating.
Or, if they had one of those (like the promo stills) shots with the full cast, and someone wasn't in the shot, that would be a Big Ass Clue.
Elena - Jul 25, 2003 9:58:39 am PDT #1951 of 10289
Thanks for all the fish.
We're spending a lot of time focussing on the elephant in the middle of the room.Suppose Amy Acker is leaving the show ... Elena doesn't know she doesn't know, so she can't tell you.
What's this? Amy Acker is leaving the show to train elephants to sit in the middle of a room?
ita - YOU BASTARD!!!
Okay.
con - Many people have said that knowing such things as the current casting spoilers decrease their enjoyment in the show.
pro - People who know the spoilers want to discuss them freely in the NAFDA threads because not doing so decreases their enjoyment (in the board? in the show?)
Is this an accurate summation of the basic positions?
Burrell - Jul 25, 2003 9:59:11 am PDT #1952 of 10289
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!
On what grounds does the proposal intend this to be openly discussable?
I'm not clear on that.
I think this is a key point. Isn't the proposal limited to discussion of between-season casting spoilers that are being actively promoted by either the network or ME?
In which case, I personally know of 3 spoilers, only two of which, in my mind, would meet this criteria.
Elena - Jul 25, 2003 9:59:47 am PDT #1953 of 10289
Thanks for all the fish.
So if it's not widely discussed (and what's your definition of widely?) then it is a spoiler? Because that needs to be reflected in the proposal.
I agree with ita. I've been asking a similar question all day.
P.M. Marc - Jul 25, 2003 10:00:13 am PDT #1954 of 10289
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
I think this is a key point. Isn't the proposal limited to discussion of between-season casting spoilers that are being actively promoted by either the network or ME?
Yes.
Burrell - Jul 25, 2003 10:00:47 am PDT #1955 of 10289
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!
Spoilers, you mean? Or changes? I didn't think these issues had come up before.
I meant spoilers.
Typo Boy - Jul 25, 2003 10:01:08 am PDT #1956 of 10289
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. Isn't the proposal limited to discussion of between-season casting spoilers that are being actively promoted by either the network or ME?
Which I think is a reasonable definition of "widely".
Except as I remember it has to be a "major" casting spoiler - which I dimly remember as as involving a regular (every episode) cast member being added or deleted.
Does someone wan't to repost the full-text with amendments that were accepted?
Elena - Jul 25, 2003 10:02:06 am PDT #1957 of 10289
Thanks for all the fish.
In which case, I personally know of 3 spoilers, only two of which, in my mind, would meet this criteria.
Oh, my god. I only know two. Are they the two that Burrell thinks meet the criteria and would be openly discussed if this proposal passes or is there another one that will be discussed that I don't know about.
See, this is the problem. And this is why we needed to have guidelines about when something is considered to be widely known and not a spoiler. Which is how we developed our current spoiler policy.
§ ita § - Jul 25, 2003 10:03:13 am PDT #1958 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Huh. So how do we decide if Amy Acker's departure is promoted enough? Joss said it at Comic Con? Time Out NY mentioned it too?
Can I then talk about it in Bitches?
That's a very wobbly line.
The BCS? Very clear. Any others to which I may be privy? I have no idea and no idea how to find out.