I have no idea how to explain why I think it's confusing to have a general alum thread. It's just what my brain is screaming at me this foggy morning.

Here's my take. I want a works-o-Minear thread. I think his work and his presence here merit it. Unless something's shifted, I see no reason that one would be banned from talking about his Angel eps in Angel -- I'm still allowed to talk Movies in Natter, right?

Part of it is because I think he's damned good, and his stuff generates a lot potential for discussion. And the other part is because he's Tim, and he's cool, and he comes around and participates.

This does distinguish him from the other alum, in my eyes. Especially those not showrunning next year.

However, volumewise, I'm prone to suggest delaying the opening to mitigate the potential natter and keep volume down. Until we're closer to Wonderfalls info, which is the big driver for this for me.

Yes, Cindy, I made the proposal very simple so that it wouldnt be too nitty to reshape it as discussion goes on. I hope. Please. For the love of Minear. ahhhh ha ha

Also, repeated questions from upstream, will this be a NAFDA thread, and how will we treat spoilers?

Just a note, I think ANY show related thread shere are inherently NAFDA.

Yes, Cindy, I made the proposal very simple so that it wouldnt be too nitty to reshape it as discussion goes on. I hope. Please. For the love of Minear. ahhhh ha ha

I appreciate that. And trawling for chocolate aside, I'm in favor of a Tim-works thread. I was just trying to steer the discussion back to the thread you've actually proposed. It seems to me that the requests for an alum thread don't fit in this discussion, as that not what you proposed, and it's not what people seconded.

Just a note, I think ANY show related thread shere are inherently NAFDA.

That's how I feel too, but you never can tell with Bees.

that was on WX before we had the thread proliferation issues.

Just to clarify, it was before we had technical thread-proliferation issues. But there have always been philosophical proliferation issues for a lot of people -- including me, even though I'm in favor of this one.

Why not Jane Espenson or David Greenwalt or David Fury or Ultimate Drew or even Joss Whedon? Or for that matter, why not Eliza Dushku or Seth Green?

I do set Tim and Joss apart from every other writer or actor ever involved with ME. Just my view.

I think I'd rather see an ME-alum thread, just because I think a thread with a wider topic is more likely to sustain a lively conversation. That said, I don't have enough of an objection to a thread devoted just to Tim's work to vote against it.

I do like Victor's idea for a thread title, though.

I do set Tim and Joss apart from every other writer or actor ever involved with ME. Just my view.

Me too. Joss because he created the Buffyverse, and Tim because he's not just a VIP who posts here sometimes, he's a Buffista. He's one of us.

Dropping in my two cents for a works-o'da-Minear kind--for reasons already stated far better than I ever could.

I like Tim a lot; he's been cool and funny and kind here.

Having a Minear thread for Tim-the-person is just a bit more fannish than I'm comfortable with. I'm happy with a "works of Tim" thread, though. It's the difference between "Mr. Smith, you are a GOD!" and "Mr. Smith, Dogma was a remarkably funny look at theology."