I don't know. I've been cyberstalked. It's terrifying, and I've been online for, as I've said before, about half my life. For me, it was a hell of a lot worse than my occasional fits of blinding rage.

Mind you, I'm in the odd position of being easily found using my real name; it's the reason I deleted any email accounts attached to it, and left my name off of anything that might be listed with my address. (Although I'm still findable, just less so.)

I understand completely about the name thing. I'm findable, too, but I tend to be more reticent online than most because of the name.

Ah, Beverly, I'm still seeing it as a discussion to accomodate people who are uncomfortable about reporting things in Bureaucracy, which is where we've already decided to go report problems. Now we need a separate place for folks who are afeared to report problems where the problem can read that they got a problem, or, we need that place to be inblisible to the problem person.

This is about fear of retribution.

I'm against this proposal, too. Broken down, it just seems like we're getting very Rube Goldberg about this.

I'm against this proposal, too. Broken down, it just seems like we're getting very Rube Goldberg about this.

Especially as we do have the E-mail Admins link. Which is handy and wonderful and good.

I'm very easily findable, too, although that is my fault for talking about specifically where I work and what I do (I'm sure I am the only 'wardrobe mistress' at my University, which I have mentioned by name a million times!)

I disagree with the proposal, but I think that this is a good discussion to be having-- clearning up admin responsibilities and talking about pricavy and threat issues.

I don't know. I've been cyberstalked.

Is that what we're talking about? We can't prevent that.

I think I'm very very confused and need to go back and re-read.

I'm against it too. But some people are less tough, or bloodyminded, or defiant than others, and if they need to talk it through, I say let them. It may help.

Especially as we do have the E-mail Admins link. Which is handy and wonderful and good.

Yes-- however, this discussion has cleared up for me the usage of this link. i really though the choice was to complain in Bureacracy or don't bring it up.

I think we've got several subjects converging here, and it's muddying things.

The original proposal is just about restricting certain to-be-determined threads to registered users only.

Cindy's concern, that raising the issue of someone's behaviour in B'cy resulted in her receiving nasty emails from the poster concerned, is really a separate issue. For one thing, the current proposal wouldn't touch this situation.

It seems like we might be agreeing that an email to the admins at the admin address would be acceptable if someone felt uncomfortable bringing something up in thread. Maybe we can add a mention of this somewhere, perhaps with the reminder that our greatly preferred course of action is to deal with things on-board, in the manner we voted on. If you felt you absolutely could not do this, then a stompy might take the text of your email and post it w/o your name, but it would be considered an exception to the usual way of doing things.

In terms of the other situation that came up, lurkers, maybe unregistered, emailing stompies with complaints and/or threats, I just don't see that there's much we can or should do. Making them register to access certain areas gives us a valid email, true. But we got that when they emailed the stompies, didn't we?

deleted a lot of extraneous stuff...

I'm concerned that people will hesitate to second a warning or suspension or banning request, because they won't want to attract the attention of trolls, and in our efforts to be inclusive to lurkers and therefore not having a sort of official Buffista Back Channel - we'll become troll infested. I'm concerned, because I (who always speak out) no longer plan to second any requests for disciplinary action against bad posters. If I (who always speak out) have been intimidated, then I imagine I'm not the only one.