And now my boy's in love. All hearts and flowers. But, doesn't it freak you out that she used to change your diapers? I mean, when you think about it, the first woman you boned is the closest thing you've ever had to a mother. Doing your mom and trying to kill your dad. Hm. There should be a play.

Angelus ,'Damage'


Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


Consuela - May 05, 2003 12:20:04 pm PDT #1031 of 10289
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

if they start making threats or harassing, we have an e-mail address

Hmm. Looks like there's two separate issues here the proposal is trying to address:

  • privacy concerns of members of the community with regards to things which are said in places like Bitches; and

  • the ability of the community to respond to security concerns regarding lurkers.

I don't think the proposal would correct for the first issue, because people say private things in every thread and we all have to live with the fact that we're on the Internet.

As for the second issue... I dunno. I see the rationale but I fear that locking the thread from unregistered readers would violate our open-to-all philosophy. We try to encourage lurkers whenever possible, and part of what attracts people to the board is our willingness to hash out damned near everything in public. Locking the thread where policy decisions are made would contradict the spirit of the board, I think, and may also make lurkers think that we're all in there saying nasty things about them.

Security issues: I think matters such as the poster who is being harrassed shouldn't be addressed on the board even privately to the community, except inasmuch as there are violations of board etiquette or major community policy issues raised. It's the internet, and Buffistas.org has no ability to keep people (even registered users) from sending nasty email and basically being troglodytes. I feel for the poster in question but I don't know what we could have done to protect them.

Them's my thoughts, depreciated for the time delay it took to write the post.


Nutty - May 05, 2003 12:20:53 pm PDT #1032 of 10289
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

and she isn't boiling your bunny or anything,

This is a great expression. We need to promulgate this expression far and wide.


Lysana - May 05, 2003 12:24:26 pm PDT #1033 of 10289
Hellbound Equal-Opportunity Nookie Hog

I have nothing to add save that I agree with the nay-sayers for all of the reasons presented. It's kind of a shame, but I think we're a bit stuck with the open-kimono situation we have here.


Allyson - May 05, 2003 12:25:54 pm PDT #1034 of 10289
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

You could do a pay to play in bitches, and grandfather in the regulars, lurkers be damned.

Just lobbing the ball out there.

Trolls are usually cheap fuckos.


Lyra Jane - May 05, 2003 12:28:07 pm PDT #1035 of 10289
Up with the sun

And also, if you do want to read something with trollish intent and you find out it's registration-required, are you going to a)go away forlorn or b)register and start reading? It's so easy to get an email address that I don't think registration is really any barrier at all.

It's the internet, and Buffistas.org has no ability to keep people (even registered users) from sending nasty email and basically being troglodytes. I feel for the poster in question but I don't know what we could have done to protect them.

This is what I wanted to say. Thank you.


Cindy - May 05, 2003 12:31:12 pm PDT #1036 of 10289
Nobody

never mind


Lyra Jane - May 05, 2003 12:31:29 pm PDT #1037 of 10289
Up with the sun

You could do a pay to play in bitches, and grandfather in the regulars, lurkers be damned.

If we did this, I would be gone.

Seriously, if we needed to charge for the board as a whole just to keep things running, that would be one thing, and I'd pony up whatever it cost. Charging for one thread to discourage lurkers is a different issue altogether, and I can't articulate my opposition beyond saying it's un-Buffistalike.


Steph L. - May 05, 2003 12:33:29 pm PDT #1038 of 10289
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

Ummm...considering it's the thread I call home (the one I check first, the one I will ignore other threads for), I just want to mention that Bitches is not really all full of the secrets that non-Bitches think it is.


Cindy - May 05, 2003 12:34:03 pm PDT #1039 of 10289
Nobody

never mind


Steph L. - May 05, 2003 12:35:52 pm PDT #1040 of 10289
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

UnBuffista

Also -- and I know this is not the topic being discussed -- this term is ridiculous. Wanting avoid being "UnBuffista" led to the ENDLESS mieskie/schmoker kerfluffle AND the ENDLESS Zoe kerfluffle.