You could do a pay to play in bitches, and grandfather in the regulars, lurkers be damned.

Just lobbing the ball out there.

Trolls are usually cheap fuckos.

And also, if you do want to read something with trollish intent and you find out it's registration-required, are you going to a)go away forlorn or b)register and start reading? It's so easy to get an email address that I don't think registration is really any barrier at all.

It's the internet, and Buffistas.org has no ability to keep people (even registered users) from sending nasty email and basically being troglodytes. I feel for the poster in question but I don't know what we could have done to protect them.

This is what I wanted to say. Thank you.

never mind

You could do a pay to play in bitches, and grandfather in the regulars, lurkers be damned.

If we did this, I would be gone.

Seriously, if we needed to charge for the board as a whole just to keep things running, that would be one thing, and I'd pony up whatever it cost. Charging for one thread to discourage lurkers is a different issue altogether, and I can't articulate my opposition beyond saying it's un-Buffistalike.

Ummm...considering it's the thread I call home (the one I check first, the one I will ignore other threads for), I just want to mention that Bitches is not really all full of the secrets that non-Bitches think it is.

never mind

UnBuffista

Also -- and I know this is not the topic being discussed -- this term is ridiculous. Wanting avoid being "UnBuffista" led to the ENDLESS mieskie/schmoker kerfluffle AND the ENDLESS Zoe kerfluffle.

I just want to mention that Bitches is not really all full of the secrets that non-Bitches think it is.

This is true. And the intimate feel of the place is a matter of the response people get there from other bitches, not from the fact that those of us who post there imagine that the place is or should be a secret.

wouldn't emailing a stompy foot be a better course of action, if people are concerned about making visible comments about a troll?

Thank you for posting, Cindy. I read most but not all of last weekend's Natter this past weekend, and am still reading the posts leading up to the last vote. My first thought was, did something happen that's behind this vote proposal? and I gather from your post that there is. I'm sorry that you are being pestered or harrassed, I'm not exactly sure where on the spectrum it falls.

My second thought was, I thought in a prior vote that it was agreed that if someone was being a pest, or there was a problem of some sort, they'd first be asked to try to deal with the matter in that that thread, and then take the matter to B'cracy to hash it out. So you'd want B'cracy to be unlocked?

As for Bitches, I've had hopes of joining in at some point, and to that end, printed out all of thread 10 in the hopes of eventually reading it and joining in sometime. Is that kind of lurking considered intrusive and am I the sort you want to ban?

Edit to clarify: I wish that it was always this easy to find out what's behind a vote proposal. Cindy's message was just a few posts behind the vote proposal. Sometimes, you have to know who to email to find out why something has come up, if you aren't in every thread daily.