But I think people can be abrasive or annoying to some without actually being harmful to the community—that's just the natural clash of different personalities in a group. That kind of nannying situation would do more harm than good.

Agreed.

I'm all for stompies taking quick action as necessary when people bring specific problems to their attention or they happen across problematic behavior themselves, and resolutions to be more conscious of other posters' discomfort is of the good. But I think people can be abrasive or annoying to some without actually being harmful to the community—that's just the natural clash of different personalities in a group. That kind of nannying situation would do more harm than good.

I am in total agreement.

Since I've never been a really active poster and have been unfortunately lurky lately, I've been holding back on saying anything, feeling sort of like I'm not enough of a member to get or need a vote. But I realized I don't want to seem to be giving tacit approval by my silence. So I'll chime in.

I was oblivious to issues both in person and in thread with P-C. I don't think I will be more suspicious with people in the future because I am a trusting soul, but I do promise to pay more attention when others speak up.

Laura is me. He never particularly pinged me, and I've been happy for him of late that he's seemed to be coming into his own. To find that he's been "coming into his own" by using and manipulating and harming others (especially others here, in this special place), is troubling to a nauseating degree. I'm so sorry that anyone in this community was harmed, and so sorry that I was so oblivious.

In the past, I've occasionally thought it was odd that he and I weren't closer friends, when other Buffistas I've spent less F2F time with I clicked with really well and feel closer to, but chalked it up to personalities just not meshing well, combined with the famous awkwardness. Now I see it's because I'm not young and hot enough, or connected enough, for him to have bothered. Which, I guess I'm thankful for as it kept me at a distance.

I absolutely support decisions made by the group that will make this a safer place and bring back some people who have really been missed.

Adding my voice of agreement.

The only way that data could have actual value is if blocking required a reason...and, just no.

I accidentally blocked a user I actually adore once, and did not notice it for some time.

Overstating the obvious, I know, but blocking for taste or annoyance is much different than blocking for menace or maltreatment.

ETA:

Now I see it's because I'm not young and hot enough, or connected enough, for him to have bothered. Which, I guess I'm thankful for as it kept me at a distance.

These were my exact thoughts.

Anyone who wants to speak up, please feel free to, no matter what the reasons. And anyone who doesn't, don't feel obligated to.

Just a reminder that he is not blocked here yet, but has been removed from FB group. Just FYI if anyone does not want to post here for that reason. I'm not really much more could be said, we seem beyond the discussion of the proposal. Voting will be what, tomorrow afternoon or Thurs morning?

If he does get blocked, he can still read and/or create a new account, correct? Just want to make sure all are clear on that in case it makes a difference in whether they would speak up or not.

He can certainly still read the board. He wouldn't be able to post.

As far as creating a new account, it's a matter of whatever stompy comes across the request figuring out that it's him. We went through that with both Mieskie and Zoe, although we're probabaly a little out of practice spotting new IDs.

Perhaps we can alter our rules for the procedures to ban people for bad behavior so that various forms of harassment IRL and the other bad behavior we have seen in this instance can be reported to Stompies, and acted on appropriately and quickly. How much investigation would we want to require? What about an appeal process?

Per Jon B. "Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!" Oct 17, 2016 10:39:36 am PDT voting starts tomorrow night and will run through Saturday.

I will reiterate that I can count votes.