At 59, Harris is also barely still in Gen X, and damn it, one of us needs to be POTUS.
None of it means a damn thing.
Mal ,'Objects In Space'
Natter 78: I might need to watch some Buffy for inspiration
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
Steph L. - Jul 21, 2024 3:28:54 pm PDT #1672 of 3466
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated
Steph L. - Jul 21, 2024 3:29:38 pm PDT #1673 of 3466
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated
But I bought a lot of cheese. I thought of Teppy while I was buying it
YESSSSSSS
Cass - Jul 21, 2024 4:29:54 pm PDT #1674 of 3466
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.
Also the Secret Service having to figure out the logistics of dealing with friendship bracelets. And Jason Kelce.
Jason has friendship bracelets down.
I've been extremely annoyed with all the dems calling for Biden to step down. He deserved better.
How was this conversation not better held two years ago? Or a year ago? It's a few weeks before the convention. I am team No More Old White Guys but I'm still puzzled how this doesn't hand more votes to Trump. Moot point now.
Steph L. - Jul 21, 2024 4:37:37 pm PDT #1675 of 3466
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated
I'm still puzzled how this doesn't hand more votes to Trump.
I really think that all the people who are going to vote for Trump are already accounted for. I don't think anyone is undecided between Trump and [Democratic candidate]; I think they've been undecided between Biden and [not voting]. So this may push some of those anti-Biden undecideds from [not voting] to [Democratic candidate].
P.M. Marc - Jul 21, 2024 5:21:07 pm PDT #1676 of 3466
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
I really think that all the people who are going to vote for Trump are already accounted for. I don't think anyone is undecided between Trump and [Democratic candidate]; I think they've been undecided between Biden and [not voting]. So this may push some of those anti-Biden undecideds from [not voting] to [Democratic candidate].
Yeah, pretty much. It also has scrambled the GOP messaging a bit, at least short-term. That's been amusing to see. I think Biden did the correct thing in dropping out, FWIW.
Trump was always incoherent and rambling he has gotten more so but there hasn't been a dramatic decline . With Biden it's pretty obvious that he has been having issues based on his recent past. And that is ...maybe not dramatic but a big deal. Of course I'm pretty sure that if Trump were in coma the GOP would keep him as the nominee and his supporters would vote for him.
Agreed on all counts.
Jesse - Jul 21, 2024 5:49:33 pm PDT #1677 of 3466
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
I really think that all the people who are going to vote for Trump are already accounted for. I don't think anyone is undecided between Trump and [Democratic candidate]; I think they've been undecided between Biden and [not voting]. So this may push some of those anti-Biden undecideds from [not voting] to [Democratic candidate].
Yeah, I think/hope that's right. Yikes, though.
Oh, and while I was out shopping for the residents, there was an amateur marching band practicing up and down the shopping mall sidewalks. It might have been School of Honk, I know I've seen that polka-dotted tuba before. Just loverly random!
This is from days ago, but Theo, it was the summer camp program, and they'll be around this week, too!
askye - Jul 21, 2024 5:52:07 pm PDT #1678 of 3466
Thrive to spite them
I want to think that whatever is going on with Biden is either really new and the issues have taken everyone by surprise OR it's something they've known about but suddenly he's had more difficulties and that the plan was to get through until the new year and step down but the debate and the shooting changed things and pushed the issue.
I really hope it's something like that and not winging it.
P.M. Marc - Jul 21, 2024 6:09:54 pm PDT #1679 of 3466
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
Five days before the debate, someone who’d seen Biden recently at a fundraiser told me that he looked and sounded dramatically worse than the previous times they’d seen him — as recently as six months ago — and that they were now convinced Biden wouldn’t be able to make it through a second term. I blew that warning off and assumed things would be fine at the debate.
That's from Matt Yglesias, askye, and it tends to support your hope.
Kate P. - Jul 21, 2024 6:26:05 pm PDT #1680 of 3466
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love
I'm still puzzled how this doesn't hand more votes to Trump.
Why would it? Surely most people who were planning to vote for Biden are already on Team Vote Blue No Matter Who, right? I think a shakeup has the potential to draw in more people who were unenthused about either Biden or Trump. Not to say I'm not super nervous still, and I certainly agree that Biden choosing not to run again last year would have been much better, but I think at this point he was pretty much toast and stepping down was the right (and almost inevitable) choice.
Trudy Booth - Jul 21, 2024 7:58:32 pm PDT #1681 of 3466
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
I really think that all the people who are going to vote for Trump are already accounted for. I don't think anyone is undecided between Trump and [Democratic candidate]; I think they've been undecided between Biden and [not voting]. So this may push some of those anti-Biden undecideds from [not voting] to [Democratic candidate].There are more than a few apathetic bigots who’ve never voted in their lives who will crawl out from under whatever slimy rock they call home to keep a Black woman out of office.