I wanna die in bed surrounded by fat grandchildren, but guess that's off the menu.

Jenny ,'Bring On The Night'


Natter 77: I miss my friends. I miss my enemies. I miss the people I talked to every day.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


sj - Apr 21, 2021 5:37:07 am PDT #5761 of 30000
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Hec, I'm so glad you and Matilda caught the emails in time. I hope the job is good for Matilda. I'm so sorry she's had such a difficult year.


Sparky1 - Apr 21, 2021 7:19:38 am PDT #5762 of 30000
Librarian Warlord

The Judge already said that Maxine Waters' comment could be grounds for Appeal.

No. Every actual appellate lawyer (and the judge is not one) says that for it to be grounds for appeal there has to be a finding of a direct link -- a juror who heard the statement, brought it into the jury room and that MW being angry at them affected decision making. Can't be speculative in any way.


Laura - Apr 21, 2021 7:27:08 am PDT #5763 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

Thanks, Sparky1. I thought the judge was rebuking Waters' comments and trying to tap down public statements. Still wish they had been sequestered, but I'm hoping that won't be cause for (successful) appeal.


Sparky1 - Apr 21, 2021 7:32:50 am PDT #5764 of 30000
Librarian Warlord

Sequestration is really rare - really, really, rare - almost never happens and most prosecutors go their whole career without asking for it.

That said, my mother sat on a notorious trial that lasted 9 months and she was sequestered for 2 weeks.


Toddson - Apr 21, 2021 7:59:07 am PDT #5765 of 30000
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

I had a friend who was on a jury for a trial that lasted, I think, seven months. I don't remember her being sequestered, but she may have been. The first federal court jury I was on ended in a mistrial - multiple defendants somehow got hold of a list of the jury members' names and, possibly, addresses (I think their lawyers had the list). We were under the marshals service's protection leaving the courtroom; after some jurors said they were so terrified that they couldn't continue, the judge declared a mistrial and we all got sent back to try again (on a different case).


Laura - Apr 21, 2021 8:03:49 am PDT #5766 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

I've only been on a civil case jury, but all the jurors took the judges instructions very seriously.


-t - Apr 21, 2021 9:03:09 am PDT #5767 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Dang, Toddson. That’s the most dramatic jury story I’ve heard, I think.

I’m in the observation area at Kaiser. I came in early, defying instructions, meaning to ask to use the restroom and go back to my car to wait for my actual appointment but they just processed me through so fast it probably doesn’t matter that I jumped the gun. I may be too early to pick up lunch though.


flea - Apr 21, 2021 9:04:12 am PDT #5768 of 30000
information libertarian

I have never been called for jury duty, despite being registered to vote everywhere I've lived for at least 20 years.


amyparker - Apr 21, 2021 9:10:49 am PDT #5769 of 30000
You've got friends to have good times with. When you need to share the trauma of a badly-written book with someone, that's when you go to family.

I've been called twice: both cases were drug offenses with children involved, and I wasn't seated either time.

Atropa, if it were only a matter of finding an appointment I'd suggest that you come over here, as the clinic at the high school this weekend still has slots open - but there is Boaty to and from, and it's a mile and a bit from the terminal to the site.


dcp - Apr 21, 2021 9:37:37 am PDT #5770 of 30000
The more I learn, the more I realize how little I know.

I've been called to report for jury duty five times, selected three times. One criminal case, two civil cases. All were one-day trials, thank goodness.

I remember being surprised at how narrow the judge's instructions to the jury were. A lot that was presented in testimony wasn't much relevant to the actual questions we were to deliberate.