Can't you ever get your mind out of the hellmouth?

Buffy ,'Touched'


Natter 77: I miss my friends. I miss my enemies. I miss the people I talked to every day.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Sparky1 - Apr 21, 2021 7:32:50 am PDT #5764 of 30000
Librarian Warlord

Sequestration is really rare - really, really, rare - almost never happens and most prosecutors go their whole career without asking for it.

That said, my mother sat on a notorious trial that lasted 9 months and she was sequestered for 2 weeks.


Toddson - Apr 21, 2021 7:59:07 am PDT #5765 of 30000
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

I had a friend who was on a jury for a trial that lasted, I think, seven months. I don't remember her being sequestered, but she may have been. The first federal court jury I was on ended in a mistrial - multiple defendants somehow got hold of a list of the jury members' names and, possibly, addresses (I think their lawyers had the list). We were under the marshals service's protection leaving the courtroom; after some jurors said they were so terrified that they couldn't continue, the judge declared a mistrial and we all got sent back to try again (on a different case).


Laura - Apr 21, 2021 8:03:49 am PDT #5766 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

I've only been on a civil case jury, but all the jurors took the judges instructions very seriously.


-t - Apr 21, 2021 9:03:09 am PDT #5767 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Dang, Toddson. That’s the most dramatic jury story I’ve heard, I think.

I’m in the observation area at Kaiser. I came in early, defying instructions, meaning to ask to use the restroom and go back to my car to wait for my actual appointment but they just processed me through so fast it probably doesn’t matter that I jumped the gun. I may be too early to pick up lunch though.


flea - Apr 21, 2021 9:04:12 am PDT #5768 of 30000
information libertarian

I have never been called for jury duty, despite being registered to vote everywhere I've lived for at least 20 years.


amyparker - Apr 21, 2021 9:10:49 am PDT #5769 of 30000
You've got friends to have good times with. When you need to share the trauma of a badly-written book with someone, that's when you go to family.

I've been called twice: both cases were drug offenses with children involved, and I wasn't seated either time.

Atropa, if it were only a matter of finding an appointment I'd suggest that you come over here, as the clinic at the high school this weekend still has slots open - but there is Boaty to and from, and it's a mile and a bit from the terminal to the site.


dcp - Apr 21, 2021 9:37:37 am PDT #5770 of 30000
The more I learn, the more I realize how little I know.

I've been called to report for jury duty five times, selected three times. One criminal case, two civil cases. All were one-day trials, thank goodness.

I remember being surprised at how narrow the judge's instructions to the jury were. A lot that was presented in testimony wasn't much relevant to the actual questions we were to deliberate.


Jessica - Apr 21, 2021 10:36:40 am PDT #5771 of 30000
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

I've served on 2 juries, both within the first three years after moving to New York (in 2000). One went to trial, one settled.


Calli - Apr 21, 2021 10:38:32 am PDT #5772 of 30000
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

For your consideration: Buffista Castle. [link]


megan walker - Apr 21, 2021 10:41:54 am PDT #5773 of 30000
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

I remember being surprised at how narrow the judge's instructions to the jury were. A lot that was presented in testimony wasn't much relevant to the actual questions we were to deliberate.

Seriously.

I've been called to report for jury duty three times, once in NY for an drug-deal-gone-wrong kidnapping trial (thankfully, not selected, because it was set to take at least six weeks over Christmas time) and twice in SF. I was never even interviewed for the snatch-and-grab iPhone case, but was selected for the other trial in which a man hit a parked car in Golden Gate Park at 10am. An otherwise minor infraction, but this dude managed to do this 1) in front of a construction site where the workers were on a break, 2) fled the scene for hours, 3) came back to intimidate the witnesses, and 4) fled the police when they came, but did it by running into the construction site, where he was immediately caught. So ultimately the charges were pretty serious.

It was a pretty open-and-shut case but somehow managed to go on for over a week because there was a lot of Spanish translation involved in the testimony and then the deliberations went on forever because half the jury just "knew" he was drunk when he hit the car. We decided to convict on the three more serious charges fairly quickly, but the forewoman and I refused to convict on drinking and driving because the prosecution couldn't prove he was drunk at the time of the accident (his blood alcohol test was done hours later and he had fled the scene). We were like, "Yes, we think he was drunk too, but maybe he went to drink somewhere afterward because he was shaken up. We have no idea what he did. And it doesn't matter anyway because we are convicting on three other more serious charges and this dude is going to prison." We managed to convince most everyone, but the two teetotalers just couldn't see why someone would go for a drink at 10am (even though they just "knew" he was drunk for the accident?) and refused to budge. We actually had to go back to the judge saying we were hung on that charge, and the judge was like, no, you're coming back next week and finish this. And then they still refused. So there ended up being a mistrial on that count, which ultimately made no difference, but I found ridiculous.

Luckily, I was being paid the whole time by work with no requirement to make up the time and the trial was actually closer to my apartment and gave long lunch breaks so I could hang out in the park, go home, whatever. So I was able to find it fascinating, although it still bugs me that two people just blatantly refused to follow the judge's instructions about evidence. I can't imagine what it must be like if it was something that would make a difference in sentencing.