Thanks everyone . I realized Jay and I are the same age. I forget that for some reason. He has never been particularly nice to me, especially as kids. But he has always been fond of mom and called her a few weeks ago to get some advice on how to deal with his mom.

I got an update and Mom said they are waiting for the bleeding to stop and the swelling to go down and then he'll have to wake up on his own but there is very little chance of that.

I am very very worried about his son. Jay is his main parent. His mother is....horrible. she was physically abusive at times towards Jay. She is an alcoholic who has never gotten sober. Jay is an only child so he has no siblings. His mother is 80 and really should be in assisted living.

It's just so sad

We also found that both of them are refusing to get vaccinated, which I don't even know how that's possible if you're a pediatrics nurse in a children's hospital.

Matt, I'm sorry to hear that. A while back, I read that a lot of nurse's groups (on FB and the like) had been infiltrated by anti-vaxxers (and maybe including foreign disinformation campaigns).

askye, I am so sorry. So much ~ma to you and yours.

I mean, I live in Arkansas, so there's no shortage of people around who believe they know better than all the doctors at the CDC who've been researching the coronavirus as the pandemic progressed. And my best friend never met a Right Wing talking point he didn't immediately adopt as gospel, so even that's not much of a surprise. But I thought his wife had more common sense, and I don't even get how she can continue at her job without proof of vaccination at this point.

I have so little tolerance for people who refuse this vaccine, and even less for the pandemic deniers. I have never been a big vaccine person, mostly because I hate needles. I got one flu vaccine over 50 years ago when there was a bad epidemic because my parents told me it was important. My history of never getting the flu remains intact so must have been a good one! I voluntarily got the Shingles one because who the hell wants to take a chance with getting Shingles. I'm past a month after my 2nd dose on this one and never for a moment did I consider not getting it as soon as I could. I get to see and hug my loved ones without worry about hurting them! I can go back to my medical offices to train people!

Continued ~ma sent as needed, askye. Such a difficult situation.

One of the physical therapist I was seeing said that he had refused the vaccine, and I refused to make any more appointments with him. The therapy place was very good about it. He just volunteered the information, I never asked.

But I thought his wife had more common sense, and I don't even get how she can continue at her job without proof of vaccination at this point.

Last I knew, ignorant niece in Georgia (who had Covid in March 2020, and whose husband and at least one of their kids were diagnosed ~March 2021) was refusing the vaccine. She's also a nurse (who works at a hospital). I don't think they should be allowed to work without the vaccine. Patients have a reasonable right to receive care from healthcare providers who are trying not to spread this thing.

In the 90s, when I worked in the Mass. General finance department, in a building across town, in which we did not provide patient care at all, they tested me for TB, chicken pox antibodies (this was before that vaccine), and MMR antibodies, and I had to provide proof of all my vaccinations, before I could begin orientation.

One of the physical therapist I was seeing said that he had refused the vaccine, and I refused to make any more appointments with him.

Good. I hope all of his clients react like that.

Wow, sj. You would think it would be required by his employer. My medical offices wouldn't let me come in to do work until I had my vaccine, because they were concerned for my exposure. All the doctors and medical staff I know are vaccinated.