I am a large, semi-muscular man. I can take it. Don't hide behind Mal 'cause you know he'll shoot it down for you. Tell me.

Wash ,'War Stories'


Natter 77: I miss my friends. I miss my enemies. I miss the people I talked to every day.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


sj - Mar 29, 2021 7:42:42 pm PDT #5013 of 30000
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Oh, Hil that's horrible! I'm so sorry for your poor mother.


DavidS - Mar 29, 2021 8:19:54 pm PDT #5014 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I'm going to lose my fucking mind. After announcing that SFUSD high school students would return to in class learning on April 26th, I just read the fine print.

Only "Focal Populations." What does that mean?

"* Focal populations: newcomer students, students demonstrating limited online engagement, homeless students, foster youth, and students in public housing."

Not Matilda. So it's another five months of solitary confinement for her. And no communication, no clarity. But clearly the strategy is to stall and drag their feet and kill off this school year, even though all the teachers have been vaccinated or had an opportunity to be vaccinated this month.

This fucking school district. NYTimes had a whole article about how FUBAR it's gotten: [link]

Private school applications have gone up 4X. It's literally driving people out of the district and out of the city, and then they won't have any fucking money.


brenda m - Mar 29, 2021 9:14:01 pm PDT #5015 of 30000
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Oh ugh, I’m so sorry for Matilda. This has all been brutal on her.

But I realized the person who set this up it will be 9pm for her and her colleagues. Wtf. That is not convenient for anyone except the one person on the east coast attending. Booo.

It’s the Europeans screwing it up for everyone else and getting rewarded with easy 2 pm call times.

I’m fighting with a project manager right now who doesn’t see why he should “double his work” by splitting the regions into separate calls but thinks it’s totally ok that my west coast people should have to be on a 4:30 am call three days a week for the next six months. (ETA and the Asia contingent at 10 pm or such for the same duration. But it works fine for East Coast Clinton so I guess who cares.)


brenda m - Mar 29, 2021 9:15:35 pm PDT #5016 of 30000
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Separating the post.

Hill, I’m just so sorry for what you and your family have been going through. I can’t imagine. I hope your mom is not in too much pain for long, physically at least.


meara - Mar 29, 2021 9:21:30 pm PDT #5017 of 30000

Jeeez Brenda that’s ridiculous. I’d probably quit if my job wanted me on a 430am call three times a week (in part because I KNOW it wouldn’t magically be “ok, it’s cool if you sign off at noon because you started so early”). Plus I always tell folks you’re not going to get good answers or retention of information at that kind of early hour.


Calli - Mar 30, 2021 3:56:55 am PDT #5018 of 30000
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

That sucks, Hec. I’ve been on the reluctant school opening train, but once the adults in the school can get vaccinated there’s really no excuse. And it’s harder for the teachers to teach via distance learning, especially with k-12–I don’t know any who are happy with it. I don’t know what your school leadership is thinking. Did they rent the buildings out to Google in secret or something?

Hil, I hope your mom heals quickly.

There was an uptick in cases at the university where I work, but the administration locked everything down for a week, and it seems to have subsided. It was probably due to illegal rush events. We may come out of this with a reduction in frat and sorority activity. I don’t know how they act elsewhere, but those groups have not been good neighbors here, so no one outside of them would mind a bit.


Laura - Mar 30, 2021 4:37:07 am PDT #5019 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

Oh Hil, how horribly frustrating for your Mom. I hope the discomfort can be managed easily.

{{Matilda and family}} I'm grateful I don't have to deal with school at any level at this point in my life. Every one of the parents, students, and teachers I know have been so stressed this past year.

Each sector of life has taken such a hit. We've discussed the impact on the arts. My world of medical is filled with seriously burned out professionals. The restaurant industry has been hit really hard too. There really isn't any sector that isn't in pain.


Sophia Brooks - Mar 30, 2021 4:40:50 am PDT #5020 of 30000
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Hil, I am so sorry about your aunt. And your poor mother!


Sophia Brooks - Mar 30, 2021 4:46:48 am PDT #5021 of 30000
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Separating posts:

Hec- that seems very frustrating for both students and teachers. Even though I am in online education, it isn’t necessarily the best option for every student, and certainly not this weird cobbled together thing they have in P-12 and many colleges right now.

Laura- My colleagues at the School of Nursing are burnt. Most professors also practice clinically. Many of them worked/work in COVID wards. The normally in-person classes given via Zoom are draining. Many of them are also working on their doctorates and raising families. I’m burnt, the student support, lab support, admissions and every other office are burnt. I wis we could just take the summer off, but we are a three semester year round school, which burnt people out before this year. (PS there is a reason teachers and professors have the summers “off”. And much of it is to recharge and much of it is to be able to engage in planning and preparation of their classes)


Sophia Brooks - Mar 30, 2021 4:50:33 am PDT #5022 of 30000
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

One more separation, because this is an annoying coworker vent:

Isn’t it common practice that the reason people are cc’d on emails is 1. To keep them in the loop (mostly your own coworkers) 2. To light a fire under the person you are emailing by cc’ing their boss????

My main two coworkers seem very confused by this process. Coworker One (Always do the right thing, scared of misunderstanding) reacts to every email she is cc’d in with panic and asked me what she should be doing. Coworker Two (only do the exact thing she is told) always says “I didn’t read that email because I was cc’d, so I figured it wasn’t for me” and then complains that no one tells her anything.

I do not have time to compose multiple separate emails to each person, tailored to what they need to know!!!