Natter 77: I miss my friends. I miss my enemies. I miss the people I talked to every day.
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Oh, Pix, I'm so sorry. That is a hard thing.
Shrift and Steph and Plei: I have so much sympathy for you all. It's so hard.
I wish I could offer advice, but so many of my issues were different. We strongarmed my folks into accepting help when Dad had to get medical treatments every day and Mom couldn't be left alone. But we had to pay for it for the first year or so, until I got access to Dad's finances and realized he could cover it.
It was a constant battle anyway, because they really hated accepting help, until they moved into assisted living. Somehow that made it easier for them, but it was still hard.
I hate that Alex never knew his paternal grandfather (died of a sudden heart attack when Dylan was a senior in college), doesn't remember my dad at all (died of cancer when Alex was a little over a year old), only faintly remembers my mother (died of cancer when he was 5), and lost the only grandparent he really had a relationship with when he was just 18. I wish he'd known all four of them--I feel like he's missing out on a sense of rootedness and connection to the past you get from knowing your family elders.
But I'm also glad none of them had to go through dementia. My maternal grandmother did, and it was so excruciating to live through. I remember when it was just starting she'd mix me up with one of my cousins who was a few years older than me but had the same coloring, and then right before my mom and aunts finally put her in a nursing home she was calling me by my mom's name. I remember it being a huge source of tension between my mom and my two aunts who lived nearby, because the aunts were all "We CAN'T put our MOTHER in a HOME!" when they had full-time jobs and were barely involved in her care and thought that Mom should have the capacity to be essentially her full-time caregiver since she only worked part-time...which no.
All of which is to say I have so much sympathy with everyone trying to sort all this out.
The last few times I saw my mom I’m pretty certain she didn’t know who I was. It hurt.
My dad’s mom had slipped into dementia by the time I was old enough to remember her. She was an intelligent, determined woman—the daughter of Finnish immigrant farmers who went to college in the 1910s, became a teacher, and demanded an equal relationship from my granddad. I have the handmade skis that she used to get to the one room school house, where she taught in the UP, on my living room wall. I wish I’d known her as she was.
The one time I ever heard Mom say something good about her father was when he voluntarily decided he was no longer fit to drive and gave up his license. She totally respected that.
Pix, I’m sorry things are fraught with your dad’s caregiver. If he can’t find work or living quarters where he is, it seems like that $10k would help him get somewhere more affordable, with more opportunities.
Good grief, Pix! That is terrible news about J, but seriously, he is a nurse. He can go work for an agency tomorrow. Nurses are in desperate demand. He needs to be currently employed, which he can do immediately. Yes, apartments are expensive, but I just glanced at listings in Ft. Lauderdale and there were plenty listed at under $1500 a month, which is reasonable for the city. I'm sorry he is piling the stress on, but he needs to grow up and deal with his own stuff.
Three of four grandparents were gone before I was born and the last one died when I was about 8. She lived in a nursing home. It was a big deal when my mom turned 42 because she had outlived her parents and only brother at that age. (They had diabetes, which was a death sentence at that time) Because her immediate family died so young we always thought dad would outlive her. He died at 62 and she lived to 95. I am grateful that neither of them had a serious mental decline. Mom's memory got a bit worse, hey 95! Dad had delusional episodes after his strokes but mostly told silly, not true stories. Not hateful outbursts or paranoia, which are so much harder to handle. Many others I know had a worse time of it.
I was pretty much offline yesterday being a big baby about having a cold. I am the worst at being sick. Less sniffly today so I'll skip the cold medicine which knocks me out.
there were plenty listed at under $1500 a month, which is reasonable for the city. I'm sorry he is piling the stress on, but he needs to grow up and deal with his own stuff.
Apparently most of the normal apartments require proof of employment and two months of paystubs, so it's not easy to get one without a current job. And because he's a new nurse graduate, a lot of places don't want to hire him. He's got such massive learned helplessness and no life skills because he grew up in a very abusive household and never had an adult to show him how to adult. But that's moot. He has to figure out his own stuff. He's acting like a victim, and he's an adult. The past two months sucked, and also we figure our shit out and move on. I've tried to be compassionate and empathetic and generous because I know my dad would want good things for J., but I also have a lot of debts — many from the past two months — and I want to resolve things in Florida so I can try to start to move on.
If he can’t find work or living quarters where he is, it seems like that $10k would help him get somewhere more affordable, with more opportunities.
Exactly.
Pix I’m so sorry you have to deal with J on top of everything else.
I’m lucky to have known (and been loved by) all 4 of my grandparents. My Mom’s dad died at 70 when I was 18 (and I still miss him all the time. My Dad’s parents died within a week of each other when they were 83 and 79 and I was 25. My Mom’s mom, who I was very close to, died at 84 when I was 35. Her death was the reason I couldn’t go to the DC F2F. My father’s maternal grandmother died when I was 2 and I met her but don’t remember her.
Timelies all!
My parents are in reasonably good shape for their age. My dad is hard of hearing and sometimes forgets he told me a story already, but physically he's fine. My mom has mobility issues, and is working with PT and OT people. I don't think she'll ever walk unaided again, but otherwise she seems to be ok.
I never knew my maternal grandfather, who died while my mom was in college.( I am named for him.) My paternal grandmother died when I was 11, my paternal grandfather when I was in high school. Finally, my maternal grandmother died when I was 19, but she had been in a nursing home for a number of years, and didn't remember who we were most of the time.
Both my parents are older than either of their parents got to be.
Oh Pix. I really hope he gets it together and you can move things forward as quickly as possible.
I’m the only one of my siblings with clear memories of all four grandparents. The grandparent who lived longest was the one we were least close to and she’s the only one my sister can remember.
One of the weirdest things about getting to know my older, half sisters is the realization that they actually grew up very close to my grandparents on my dad’s side, as well as all of the other extended relations that we barely knew.
None of my grandparents and neither of my parents ever went the dementia road and I’m so glad for that. When my mom was struggling with the brain tumors, we occasionally got the tiniest taste of what that might be like. And it still makes my chest tight to think about. I’m so deeply sorrowful for what some of you are going through or have had to deal with in your loved ones. All I can say is I’m glad that this community is here for you as it was for me.
J. is out of his mind. ND called him today to explain why he can't just stay in the condo and that we need to sell it, and J lost it and said he's going to be homeless and his sister is telling him he should be a squatter. I sent him an email clearly laying out that he needs to be out by March 15 or I will have to call the police and I really don't want to do that. I reminded him I gave him money, so he can buy a car (he wanted ND to help him buy a van to live in, which ND doesn't have the spoons to do -- I told him about Carmax), and he can also go to other parts of Florida that aren't as expensive and have nursing shortages. I told him Dad would want better for him, that this doesn't have to be the utter fiasco he's making it, that he has options and that things will get better.
I am so upset. He's so unstable that I worry about him. But I also have nothing left to give him, financially or emotionally. I also reached to to a lawyer about Florida's ejectment law if it comes to that. Please don't let it come to that.
