Mal: Go on. Get in there. Give your brother a thrashing for messing up your plan. River: He takes so much looking after.

'Objects In Space'


Natter 77: I miss my friends. I miss my enemies. I miss the people I talked to every day.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Steph L. - Jan 23, 2024 8:05:29 am PST #28178 of 30000
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated

When DH had pancreatitis pain, they practically threw handfuls of oxycodone at him when he asked for pain relief. I think the shingles pain is certainly comparable. I probably watch too much TV, so I feel like I'm doing something wrong if I ask for a narcotic pain reliever even though it's, you know, to relieve pain. "Just Vicodin, and only at night... I'll stick to Tramadol or Tylenol during the day..." WTF? I mean, it's not an unreasonable plan, but why did I feel the need to, like, bargain for Vicodin?

Ugh, men's pain does get taken more seriously, but also, the pendulum swung WAY too far in the direction of not adequately treating serious pain because of the concern of addiction. Like, maybe don't prescribe someone 60 mg of oxycodone 3 times a day with a basically unlimited prescription (literally what my dad was prescribed) without sorting out what the ongoing issue is, sure. But Jesus Christ, for acute pain (which includes shingles pain, because that shit can be horrible), medicate your damn patients.

And, honestly, some people do need chronic pain meds, and I think that's 100% okay too, assuming that the patient's provider/providers have thoroughly sorted out the ongoing issue.

This will apparently forever be my soapbox rant. Inadequately treated pain is fucking malpractice.


Steph L. - Jan 23, 2024 8:06:55 am PST #28179 of 30000
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated

I was raised as a "rub dirt in it and move on" person, too

I will not rub dirt in my eye, just for the record. (Winky emoticon. But, like, a blood-red winky emoticon. My eye really does look so gross.) If I knew how exactly to rub dirt on high blood pressure, I would totally do it, though.


lisah - Jan 23, 2024 8:07:13 am PST #28180 of 30000
Punishingly Intricate

Good abundance of caution use, Steph!

There is NO situation where this is a valid fireable offence.

It’s bullshit but it’s not like they need a reason to fire her. Hope you find something better soon, smonster!!


meara - Jan 23, 2024 8:07:43 am PST #28181 of 30000

Good job staying safe Steph! That’s a creepy symptom to be surprised by for sure.

Jen I hear ya. That sucks a lot. Glad the pain is turning a corner but sorry you’re in pain at all!

Working on the east coast is so much better, nobody expects me to be online at 7am and I can wake up after the sun rises. It’s so much more civilized. But I like being in Seattle. Sigh.


Dana - Jan 23, 2024 8:11:10 am PST #28182 of 30000
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

Keep us updated, Steph. Abundance of caution is good.


Jessica - Jan 23, 2024 8:38:09 am PST #28183 of 30000
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

I feel like I deserve a gold star for actually following the advice that I would give to someone else

You deserve a gold star and a ride home!

Dirt rubbed into inflamed eyes and/or shingles pain will not help! I am not a medical professional, but I am, like, PRETTY SURE of this.


sj - Jan 23, 2024 9:12:19 am PST #28184 of 30000
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Teppy, I hope that it’s nothing.

David, that is so sweet. ltc is practically my height now, but I hope she never stops climbing into my lap.

Pix, I’m so glad you found a good home for Sunny.

ltc has left the tomagothchi with me today. She was very upset to get home yesterday and find it on 0 happiness yesterday.


Susan W. - Jan 23, 2024 9:13:41 am PST #28185 of 30000
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Health~ma, Steph!


P.M. Marc - Jan 23, 2024 9:41:47 am PST #28186 of 30000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Hoping it's nothing, Teppy.

Health~ma to all. Wonderful news re: Sunny.

I'm about to try to nap off a headache so that I can get back to work. I have been sleeping poorly, and it's taking its toll.

L went through a period last year where she wasn't at all cuddly for various reasons that have since been addressed and discussed and resolved. (I will admit here that I will always be slightly resentful WRT my older sister for what's been going down for the last year or so, even though some of it was unavoidable, in part because my child was going through some things and tried to handle them on her own as a result of me having to deal with my sister's issues. And after July of last year, just flat-out angry, frustrated, and borderline done, which makes me feel guilty as hell, but anyhow.) She's back in the land of attacking my person with hugs and a need for cuddling, which is nice. Occasionally smothering, but nice.


DavidS - Jan 23, 2024 9:43:40 am PST #28187 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

She's back in the land of attacking my person with hugs and a need for cuddling, which is nice. Occasionally smothering, but nice.

It is nice!