Take jobs as they come -- and we'll never be under the heel of nobody ever again. No matter how long the arm of the Alliance might get, we'll just get ourselves a little further.

Mal ,'Out Of Gas'


Natter 77: I miss my friends. I miss my enemies. I miss the people I talked to every day.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


lisah - Nov 20, 2023 9:16:13 am PST #26935 of 30000
Punishingly Intricate

Shir and Nilly, reading your words here is truly a balm.


Shir - Nov 20, 2023 9:29:13 am PST #26936 of 30000
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

I do feel - and fear - that by picking sides, people miss that there are real people here, with their lives and sanity on the line. We are not fictional characters, and a lot of us - I do hope most of us - just want to live and don't want others around them, of any ethnicity or nationality, dead or displaced.

We have wonderful people, and absolutely rotten and cynical politicians.


erikaj - Nov 20, 2023 9:40:10 am PST #26937 of 30000
I'm a fucking amazing catch!--Fiona Gallagher, Shameless(US)

Yeah, it really does help. It always helped me picture what life is like there, because many of us don't see it except as a Trouble Spot.(part of the problem when we "help" I think. Yes, those biscuits are excellent, but kind of weird if you take one home...they don't reheat well. Maybe as with the Colonel's biscuits(in the American sense, you know, rolls?) it's a price we pay for symnetry. Although when I was a kid our big deal was Sizzler and their cheesy toast. If I didn't get some with my own order(which happened kind of often, because as I recall, the cheeseburger was my first choice...nowadays there'd be one with a Cheesy Bun, I almost bet, but not then.) Mom would give me hers. Which might be why my stepdad used to call me "Queen Carbo" sometimes. Shir, I can relate to your sentiments about the pols(with a few exceptions) but, yeah, happens here, too.


meara - Nov 20, 2023 9:46:48 am PST #26938 of 30000

Also impressive, but unfortunately violent: about 50 minutes ago there were sirens in 117 different areas, almost simultaneously. You know, at some point I'd thought they'll run out of rockets, but apparently they still have a lot.

Yikes that is very scary!! But I continue to be so glad you are both posting here and keeping us updated.


Steph L. - Nov 20, 2023 9:53:13 am PST #26939 of 30000
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated

I do feel - and fear - that by picking sides, people miss that there are real people here, with their lives and sanity on the line. We are not fictional characters, and a lot of us - I do hope most of us - just want to live and don't want others around them, of any ethnicity or nationality, dead or displaced.

When it comes to everyone living in Israel and Gaza, I don't want anyone to be killed or harmed or starved or denied medical attention or displaced. It's not possible to pick a side, because, like you said, they are real people, and everyone deserves to live peacefully.


erikaj - Nov 20, 2023 10:01:15 am PST #26940 of 30000
I'm a fucking amazing catch!--Fiona Gallagher, Shameless(US)

Agreed.. I feel badly for everyone and just want the pain to stop.


Laura - Nov 20, 2023 10:21:18 am PST #26941 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

I found an advent calendar for ltc with a rock a day, and she absolutely squealed with glee when she saw it.

I would too! That is delightful.

I do hope most of us - just want to live and don't want others around them, of any ethnicity or nationality, dead or displaced.

I believe this is the majority. The news prefers to show people who only think their side has any value or justification for their behavior.


askye - Nov 20, 2023 10:27:44 am PST #26942 of 30000
Thrive to spite them

I am on the side of everyone who is trapped amid all this and just wants to stop.

My inability to sleep continues and it means sometimes I read through random news trying to get tired. I know I should stay away from screens but after lying in bed for an hour and not sleeping I need to do something.

And for the first time since July (I think) my period showed up I'm not happy. I have cramps (I took something it helped but didn't make them go away) .


Gudanov - Nov 20, 2023 10:47:00 am PST #26943 of 30000
Coding and Sleeping

I don't like Nentanyahu or Hamas and I feel terrible about all the innocent people caught in the middle.


Gudanov - Nov 20, 2023 10:49:58 am PST #26944 of 30000
Coding and Sleeping

Going to be a rough Thanksgiving. We are traveling South to Kansas City to see everybody, but a lot of tension has developed between my wife and my younger daughter's SO. So much so that I don't think my wife will be seeing my younger daughter. I tried to defuse the situation but it didn't take.