And we live to fight another day.

Mal ,'Objects In Space'


Natter 77: I miss my friends. I miss my enemies. I miss the people I talked to every day.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Toddson - Aug 30, 2023 6:43:19 am PDT #24667 of 30000
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

In regard to calculating, a courtesy aunt (she and my mother were best friends in college, were in each other's weddings and remained friends) wanted to wallpaper a room. So she took measurements, did the math; it seemed like a lot of wallpaper, but she took her numbers down to the store. She told the guy how much wallpaper she needed and he said he'd never had that much of any single wallpaper pattern. Ever. So they went over the numbers and finally realized she'd calculated the volume of the room. They redid the math, got a reasonable number and all was well.

As kind of a reverse, I was once talking to some friends and they were trying to figure out how much the carpeting they wanted would be. We figure out the square footage of the room and it seemed to come out really expensive. After some tossing numbers around, we realized that carpeting is sold by the square yard - nine feet - which got it down to, again, something reasonable.


juliana - Aug 30, 2023 7:41:40 am PDT #24668 of 30000
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

I'm glad the urn math worked out correctly - I was hustling down (so late, I know) to mention that the measurements are exterior & the jar, while quite a lovely blue, is way too small.

So much love and care and yes, worry, for everyone.


Sean K - Aug 30, 2023 8:07:58 am PDT #24669 of 30000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Jumping ahead to ask:

Plei: I would like to be made into bling and ink.

Is bone ash-made tattoo ink vegan if it's made from a human who expressly wanted that to happen with their remains?


Sean K - Aug 30, 2023 8:10:06 am PDT #24670 of 30000
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

And now Jacqueline. It’s not fair.

This is where I’ve been stuck. For weeks. It’s not fucking FAIR. I feel like a little kid stomping my feet in a tantrum, wailing about how it’s just not fair.

I too am really struggling with the not-fairness of it all.


DavidS - Aug 30, 2023 9:13:42 am PDT #24671 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

As of yesterday, Jacqueline is unresponsive. She's not even opening her mouth for me to put a little sponge in her mouth for her to get some water.

Second day in a row that there was no liquid in her canister from the G-tube pump. Which means her body has no hydration and she's shutting down.

Death by kidney failure is generally considered to be very gentle and serene, with the patient even having feelings of euphoria. I hope so.

When my mom was at this stage it took about 3 days. So I think in the next day or two.

We are all ready for her to be released. We are in no way ready for her to be gone.


Jon B. - Aug 30, 2023 9:17:16 am PDT #24672 of 30000
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

I'm crying. But thank you for sharing all this with us David. And thanks to everyone who has better words to share than I do (which is basically everyone).


Steph L. - Aug 30, 2023 9:17:38 am PDT #24673 of 30000
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

We are all ready for her to be released. We are in no way ready for her to be gone.

All of you are surrounded by so much love.


dcp - Aug 30, 2023 9:22:58 am PDT #24674 of 30000
The more I learn, the more I realize how little I know.

We are all ready for her to be released. We are in no way ready for her to be gone.

Well phrased. Been there a few times.

Sympathy. Empathy. Condolences.


-t - Aug 30, 2023 9:26:19 am PDT #24675 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Oh, my dear ones.


lisah - Aug 30, 2023 9:33:38 am PDT #24676 of 30000
Punishingly Intricate

I feel so privileged to “sit” with all of you (but, especially, David and family) at this time.