I kissed him, and I told him that I loved him. And I killed him.

Buffy ,'Same Time, Same Place'


Natter 77: I miss my friends. I miss my enemies. I miss the people I talked to every day.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


sarameg - Aug 02, 2023 8:34:47 pm PDT #23454 of 30000

Wishing you whatever you need. This sucks.

(I’m not really here these days. But if you need therapeutic cat pics, you know where to find me.)


DavidS - Aug 02, 2023 9:18:44 pm PDT #23455 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Thank you, all.

I am hoping that in a few weeks she feels better from being off the chemo, and we have some time.

I spent a good chunk of yesterday calling Jacqueline's mother and brothers and other family members to give them the news. And I was okay doing that.

But posting it here was what made it real and the copious tears happened.

We would make every effort to give her the slimmest chance. But I'm also relieved to not push her through this wringer any longer. It has been brutalizing.

But she is still here, and I'm grateful for that. I'm grateful for now because she's still here.

The eating has not come back yet but she slept well, and because her computer is having stupid problems, she spent a good chunk of the day on her Kindle and I think that might have been a blessing.

Take a second to revel in every day's mundane pleasures. Enjoy every sandwich, as Warren Zevon said.

One thing I said to Jacqueline (which was not the softest soap, but the truth I thought that was useful) was that she was not singled out by some awful fate to die. We will all die. Her mother will die. I will die. Her daughter will grow old and die. Her daughter's daughter will die.

Our culture is very bad at dealing with death. Or, it knows how to commodify it but it doesn't know how to weave it into the fabric of our lives.

We all have, as Neil Gaiman pointed out, a lifetime.

Let us all wake up in the morning, announce what we had for breakfast, and move into our days.


Consuela - Aug 02, 2023 9:37:36 pm PDT #23456 of 30000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

SONOFABITCH.

I'm so angry on your behalf. You all deserve better than this bullshit biology.

May the love (and rage) of your many friends and family give you strength, and carry you forward. May there be sunsets and sunrises and lavender and dutch babies and butterflies and music and romance novels.

{{hugs to all the Zmayhems}}


P.M. Marc - Aug 03, 2023 12:15:29 am PDT #23457 of 30000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Our culture is very bad at dealing with death. Or, it knows how to commodify it but it doesn't know how to weave it into the fabric of our lives.

I think about this a lot, and it's something we talked about when camping* over the weekend. The miracles of modern medicine have truly been a blessing, but with that blessing, those of us with access to it find ourselves at an unprecedented remove from it, so we've lost those threads. Kind of wish we could figure out how to put them back into place.

(* The actual context when camping was the tonal difference between true crime books written when death was more of a daily part of life and true crime books written in the modern era.)


Steph L. - Aug 03, 2023 5:03:02 am PDT #23458 of 30000
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

Tim's second surgery is happening now, so please send successful surgery~ma and easy recovery~ma his way, please.


lisah - Aug 03, 2023 6:02:25 am PDT #23459 of 30000
Punishingly Intricate

Go Tim and Tim’s surgical team!!!


Laura - Aug 03, 2023 6:09:51 am PDT #23460 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

Much ~ma for brilliant surgical maneuvers, and easy rapid recovery for Tim.

But I'm also relieved to not push her through this wringer any longer. It has been brutalizing.

I've been close to people who chose the worst brutalizing treatments, and those who chose to treasure whatever pleasures they could with their time with loved ones. It is an incredibly personal decision and I always respected that, but it is kinder to body and spirit to not suffer through the most aggressive treatments.

May you have a longer lifetime to treasure the everyday moments than anticipated.


javachik - Aug 03, 2023 6:58:51 am PDT #23461 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

I can accept death. What I have a hard time accepting is why certain people get less time on earth than certain other people. I will never understand it, and remain shaking my fists at the sky angry that some of the absolute best people get fewer days, fewer years, than some of the most atrocious.


Dana - Aug 03, 2023 7:49:36 am PDT #23462 of 30000
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Yeah, that's hard to get past.


Calli - Aug 03, 2023 8:11:53 am PDT #23463 of 30000
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

some of the absolute best people get fewer days, fewer years, than some of the most atrocious.

The Kissinger dilemma.