How's it sit? Pretty cunning, don'tchya think?

Jayne ,'The Message'


Natter 77: I miss my friends. I miss my enemies. I miss the people I talked to every day.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Laura - Mar 14, 2023 12:57:46 pm PDT #21133 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

Surgery does indeed suck, but yes easier now than later after it has progressed more. {{Tim}} {{Teppy}} It is just as tough to watch your loved one go through the physical challenges as it is to go through them yourself.


Trudy Booth - Mar 14, 2023 1:09:22 pm PDT #21134 of 30000
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

If you had asked me 17 years ago which one of us was going to need 3 surgeries in 3 years and which one of us would just keep trundling along, I would not have picked the way it's turned out, I tell you what.

What? No! You must be confused. It has been explained to me many many times that being chonky causes every problem and being slim means you’re healthy and your body works great all the time.

I’m so sorry he is going through all of this. The two of you are very much in my thoughts.


-t - Mar 14, 2023 1:14:33 pm PDT #21135 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Poor Tim. I hope the surgery is easy and helps a whole lot!


Steph L. - Mar 14, 2023 1:17:21 pm PDT #21136 of 30000
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

What? No! You must be confused. It has been explained to me many many times that being chonky causes every problem and being slim means you’re healthy and your body works great all the time.

Right? I, the chonk, with a family history of heart disease and a personal history of back surgery, am watching in utter confusion as my svelte (and genuinely metabolically healthy) husband has both heart and back surgery. It's honestly funny, though I try not to laugh *at* him, since he's the one getting his Frequent Surgery card punched a little too often.

I guess maybe I got my surgery out of the way early? So go me?

Also — and this is 100% true — my brother had surgery today to repair the Achilles tendon that he completely tore [pause while everyone cringes in sympathetic pain] when his dogs got out 10 days ago and he chased them. The good news is, they got the dogs back within 45 minutes. Also his surgery went well, but apparently the recovery is loooooong. Like, measured in months. And he, too, has to have back surgery, because he's been in terrible pain for about 6 months, but that's been delayed because of his incredible shredded Achilles.

Which is why I don't run.


Trudy Booth - Mar 14, 2023 1:19:30 pm PDT #21137 of 30000
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Way too risky.


Steph L. - Mar 14, 2023 1:21:43 pm PDT #21138 of 30000
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

Poor Tim. I hope the surgery is easy

Apparently surgery for scoliosis is not easy, because they have to do a shit-ton of repairing and aligning and, I don't know, welding? in the lower spine. The doctor said 3-5 days in the hospital (which Tim is a pro at by now) and then 3-6 months of recovery at home before he can return to work. The 3-6 months is mostly to protect his healing back; he should honestly be back to taking walks and such probably within the first month. I fucking well hope he can entertain himself after that initial month or so, because post-surgery caretaking and Covid quarantine have taught me that I will stab a bitch if he gets underfoot too much.


Jesse - Mar 14, 2023 2:00:51 pm PDT #21139 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Oh damn, good luck to both of you!


Calli - Mar 14, 2023 2:19:50 pm PDT #21140 of 30000
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Well, I’m glad it’s fixable, even if the recovery is long.


-t - Mar 14, 2023 2:25:15 pm PDT #21141 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Yikes, that sounds like a lot. Good luck!


DavidS - Mar 14, 2023 3:45:48 pm PDT #21142 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Oof, that sounds tough for Tim, but there is a bright side to getting past it. He's a hiking, woodsy, tramping about type.