You do well to flee, townspeople! I will pillage your lands and dwellings! I will burn your crops and make merry sport with your more attractive daughters! Ha ha ha! Mark my words! Ooh! Ale! I smell delicious ale!

Olaf the Troll ,'Showtime'


Natter 77: I miss my friends. I miss my enemies. I miss the people I talked to every day.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Steph L. - Jan 13, 2023 7:13:52 am PST #19933 of 30000
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

JZ, I hate that your news isn't as good as you had hoped. I hate it so much. But Ginger was right about 5-year survival rates always being 5 years behind. You're going to have excellent care, and that already puts the odds in your favor. You have so much love coming from all of us, and I believe that makes a difference, too.


askye - Jan 13, 2023 7:23:57 am PST #19934 of 30000
Thrive to spite them

JZ I want to agree with sj about leaning into denial...if it's going to be a tool that will help improve your life then you should use it.

sj -- that's awesome that ltc can make her own snack!


Laura - Jan 13, 2023 7:27:52 am PST #19935 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

You may recall more than ten years ago my bat-shit-crazy co-worker developed breast cancer. (note: this ends well) She had shown us the lump and we all argued with her about seeing a doctor. Nope, she wasn't buying into big pharma, blah, blah. She went on a diet that I only remember included raw yogurt. She was taller than me, maybe 5'8" and got down under 100 pounds. We teased her calling her a 97-pound weakling, and of course, tried to get her to see reason. The tumor had broken through the skin under her arm, which she said meant it was breaking up. Then her lung collapsed. At this point, her husband said he didn't care if she divorced him he was taking her to the hospital. They were never able to get the lung working again, but she finally listened to this super charming oriental doctor. She was far too weak for anything but child dosage oral chemo. Her doctor made her list her food intake and insisted it included things like bacon cheeseburgers, fries, and milkshakes. #1 objective was to fatten her up.

She'll probably have to take some level of medication forever, but she is fine. Last time I saw her she was up to 140 pounds. She now lives in central FL and has a thriving vegetable garden and raises chickens. She even has the energy to take care of her grandchildren. Frankly, all of us, including her family, thought she had no chance of survival. She's doing great. Full remission. Also, still insane, most recently posting some 9/11 conspiracy meme since she buys into it all. Chem trails, vaccine horrors. But at least she decided big pharma might be a good plan.


Shir - Jan 13, 2023 7:32:14 am PST #19936 of 30000
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

JZ and David and family, I'm sorry for the news. Best care and technology and best options~ma to you, and all of the love in the world.


Shir - Jan 13, 2023 7:38:09 am PST #19937 of 30000
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

(and in a separate, much more minor health news: after almost three years, COVID finally caught up with me. Sick since Monday, got a positive PCR test on Wed.. Doing better now).


Laura - Jan 13, 2023 8:27:39 am PST #19938 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

I do hope it is brief and mild, Shir. Which reminds me that I really need to boost.


Steph L. - Jan 13, 2023 8:39:39 am PST #19939 of 30000
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

Which reminds me that I really need to boost.

Tim and I are boosted, but no one at his work is wearing a mask. We got Covid in January of '21 AND '22, and I am going to be furious if he (and therefore also I) get Covid yet again. I'd like to break the streak and not have a threepeat.

I don't want to say this out loud because I'm afraid I'll jinx myself, but I feel like the Long Covid fatigue is improving incrementally. I've had more energy since the beginning of the year (yeah, I know that's only 2 weeks, but I'll take 2 weeks of NOT feeling like my life force has been siphoned out like in The Princess Bride), and I'll be beyond pissed if I get Covid again and lose that progress. I REALLY want this to be the year I have the energy and strength to get back to hiking, and maybe even walking a 5k again.


Laura - Jan 13, 2023 9:06:39 am PST #19940 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

I scheduled my booster for tonight. I'm also going wild and getting a flu vaccine for the first time in 50 years. I'm around a lot more people now with the sharing of elevators and such. My doctor will be so impressed and pleased. If I am sick all weekend I will not be pleased. Particularly since I have never had the flu.


JenP - Jan 13, 2023 9:35:32 am PST #19941 of 30000

Steph, that's great to hear. The fatigue improving.

Laura, yay boosters and flu vax.


DavidS - Jan 13, 2023 10:17:55 am PST #19942 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I've had the bivalent booster and flu shot. And next up will be Shingles vax.