Plus bonus points for use of the word 'mosey'.

Oz ,'Same Time, Same Place'


Natter 77: I miss my friends. I miss my enemies. I miss the people I talked to every day.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jesse - Jan 04, 2021 12:48:12 pm PST #1902 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I was furious when they introduced Teams when we were still in the office, but I've gotten used to it. Basically it feels like mediocre versions of five different things shoved together. I still don't think it makes sense for most document storage, but we still have our regular files (so far) so that's OK.


Jessica - Jan 04, 2021 1:04:10 pm PST #1903 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Someone in our morning Zoom meeting suggested switching to MS Teams and everyone else pretty much recoiled, hissing like vampires who just saw a crucifix.

We have an internal chat/meeting app that was our only option before Slack, and literally NOBODY fell back on it during the Slack outage this morning. Because we hates it, precious.


NoiseDesign - Jan 04, 2021 1:40:55 pm PST #1904 of 30000
Our wings are not tired

MS Teams is really nice, but the issue is it only really pays off if you have 100% complete commitment to the entire Microsoft suite of tools. This makes sense for large organizations that have an IT department that is managing all of that, but it's a lot to deal with for a small business. It also means you really need to switch everyone to using Outlook for Calendar, which them means they are also moving to Outlook for e-mail since those are integrated, etc, etc. There's no good way to schedule a meeting in a stand alone fashion in Teams, you need to do it through the calendar in Outlook.

Since we use Google for the backend for our email and scheduling, that made Teams not a very good match. I've had to use it as an external user with some of our clients who are completely in the MS ecosystem, and the tools seemed pretty good.


Sheryl - Jan 04, 2021 2:20:15 pm PST #1905 of 30000
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"

Timelies all!

One bit of kinda good news here. Found out that the payback of the taxes that weren't taken out since September will be spread out through the whole year. Previously they were going to do it over three months, so I guess that is an improvement. Still wish I had a choice about the whole thing to begin with.


Atropa - Jan 04, 2021 2:38:36 pm PST #1906 of 30000
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

One of the benefits of being one of the "Mornings? What are those?" tech industry people means that things like the Slack outage are resolved by the time I'm around!


meara - Jan 04, 2021 3:09:56 pm PST #1907 of 30000

We have Teams rather than Slack, but people really only use the calling/meeting/instant message functions, not the group chats and channels and stuff

I am so torn up about a friend. We are close, and I know she’s been having a very rough time. But she’s also been pretty COVID-careless. We discussed a few times earlier in the quarantimes and I know she was annoyed (but seriously, “only” seeing five friends when most of them have up to 5 roommates? Is not a small bubble) and now she’s sent a message to our group about how she feels shamed and it’s bad for her mental health so she has to step away. And we are like “girl, get all the tinder booty you want after the pandemic and we will cheer you on, but we don’t want you to die from COVID because you are “desperate” to hook up!”


Steph L. - Jan 04, 2021 3:15:35 pm PST #1908 of 30000
I look more rad than Lutheranism

And we are like “girl, get all the tinder booty you want after the pandemic and we will cheer you on, but we don’t want you to die from COVID because you are “desperate” to hook up!”

I have a friend who's been bemoaning how hard it is to be polyamorous in a pandemic. And I'm sure that it is! That's not my thing, but I can certainly imagine that it has to really be rough. But even so, friendo, PLEASE be careful!


NoiseDesign - Jan 04, 2021 4:29:21 pm PST #1909 of 30000
Our wings are not tired

Yeah, you know what else is hard during a pandemic? Running a business that depends on people that gather in groups. If my entire industry can be shut down, then people can forgo hooking up during all of this. It's also bad for my mental health to worry about paying bills, but there it is, this is the reality right now. I have really lost patience with humanity.


meara - Jan 04, 2021 4:48:53 pm PST #1910 of 30000

Yeah I totally believe she’s having a hard time. Fully get it and want to help...I just think there’s gotta be safer ways. And I know there’s a certain amount of “fuck it I already have this one risk why not take others” but that’s not true


Dana - Jan 04, 2021 5:10:15 pm PST #1911 of 30000
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Husband got into a bickering match at the grocery store with a guy whose mask didn't cover his nose. Guy first insisted that it was fine because we were more than six feet away, and eventually he and his wife told us to stay home if we were scared. (My contribution was telling them to fuck off.)