It's because you didn't have a strong father figure isn't it?

Joyce ,'Chosen'


Natter 77: I miss my friends. I miss my enemies. I miss the people I talked to every day.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


-t - Dec 18, 2020 9:50:04 am PST #1264 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Oh, man, that is a hard situation to be in without the extra pandemic fun, Pix. My sympathies.


msbelle - Dec 18, 2020 9:51:05 am PST #1265 of 30000
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I don't give a single damn about Christmas.

This made me laugh. Christmas Day means nothing this year (and likely years to come), just a day off, but I do love the decorations and I hope to do some baking this weekend.

In decorating in the new house and figuring where things can go and whatnot, I am likely getting rid of some things and looking to get some others. I am slowly moving to the idea of having rotational decorative stuff out all year round so there is less out at any one time. I am packing things away now as I put out the Christmas things and am liking it much better.


-t - Dec 18, 2020 9:58:13 am PST #1266 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

We have a department meeting every Friday at 12:30 which seems like something I would be able to remember because it's an extremely irritating time to to have a recurring meeting, but I do not. I probably miss around half of them. I finally thought to put an alert on the calendar last week, got it at 12:20, thought to myself "right, just finish this one thing and switch to Zoom" and next thing I know it's 1:45 and I have missed another one.

I am saying all this in the hopes that it will be one more thumbtack in my very unreliable mental bulletin board of Stuff To Not Miss, No Really, Do This


Calli - Dec 18, 2020 10:09:05 am PST #1267 of 30000
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

I don't give a single damn about Christmas.

I don’t care about Christmas qua Christmas, but I do like meeting up with family every year and having an excuse to buy them things and catch up on their interests. Nephew wants an $800 camera lens? Well, he ain’t getting it from me, but it’s cool that he’s really gotten into photography, ya know?

Pix, I hope the stuff with your dad, and attendant travels, go as smoothly as possible.


Tom Scola - Dec 18, 2020 10:46:01 am PST #1268 of 30000
Mr. Scola’s wardrobe by Botany 500

I am not handling Christmas well this year. It’s not like I have any particular desire to see my family, but I’m still bitter about being alone. I haven’t sent my family any cards, I haven’t bought my nieces and nephew anything, and I know I’m just being spiteful about it. I keep trying to psych myself up to get the energy to put something in the mail, but it isn’t happening.


hippocampus - Dec 18, 2020 10:52:32 am PST #1269 of 30000
not your mom's socks.

condolences to David and SJ and hugs to Amy. I hope the meds do right by you soon.

I think I am done with grading? At least I have turned them in? The grading continues in my head, meanwhile. And now I have to do all the writing. Or a nap.


-t - Dec 18, 2020 10:55:21 am PST #1270 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

You're allowed, Scola.

I'm not doinganything Christmasy but I haven't for many years. However, I have only recently come to the realization that I am in general not really okay. It was hard to admit to myself (and I have yet to figure out anything to do about it) because all the particular things that have made this year so hard for everyone have been relatively easy for me - I don't mind being alone, I still have a job and a paycheck, I haven't been physically suffering, so I should be ok. But I'm not.

Not looking for hairpats or advice, just want to let everyone else who maybe isn't ok and is having a hard time with that fact for similar reasons that we are allowed to be not ok.


msbelle - Dec 18, 2020 11:16:33 am PST #1271 of 30000
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Pix I am sorry things are so hard and there are no good or easy answers.

Amy, sorry for sick and the loss of work.

Tom, be kind to yourself. How old are the nieces and nephews now? teen-ish?


Tom Scola - Dec 18, 2020 11:27:28 am PST #1272 of 30000
Mr. Scola’s wardrobe by Botany 500

Teens and twenties.


msbelle - Dec 18, 2020 11:41:56 am PST #1273 of 30000
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

It's not very exciting, but would they just want cash or gift cards? That can be done electronically which, again, not exciting, but it would be done.