Maybe I've always been here.

Early ,'Objects In Space'


Natter 77: I miss my friends. I miss my enemies. I miss the people I talked to every day.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Steph L. - Jan 19, 2022 7:31:55 am PST #12228 of 30000
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

The Joss article has me depressed thinking about my own self-loathing, and the things I do to sabotage myself, and how implacable it seems.

Huge difference here: Joss used his issues as an excuse for why he was unable to stop himself from treating people like things and abusing them. You don't. You DON'T. And that difference is enormous. It's everything.


Pix - Jan 19, 2022 7:55:19 am PST #12229 of 30000
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

What. Teppy. Said.


DavidS - Jan 19, 2022 8:32:01 am PST #12230 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

The Joss article has me depressed thinking about my own self-loathing, and the things I do to sabotage myself, and how implacable it seems.

First of all he's a narcissist, and you're not. Second, he hurts other people and you hurt yourself.

I wish there was an airflow button for you, Tom, like we have on a car. Instead of circulating your own self-loathing you could be flooded with the way everybody else feels about you.


Toddson - Jan 19, 2022 9:16:06 am PST #12231 of 30000
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

OK, it's not exactly an island, but how about this for the Buffistas? since most are working remotely, location shouldn't be an issue.


-t - Jan 19, 2022 9:25:17 am PST #12232 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I'm sorry it hit you like that, Tom. That's not fair or right.

I keep deleting everything I want to say about the Joss thing. Just did it again. Cannot get the thoughts into words that seem right.


-t - Jan 19, 2022 9:26:37 am PST #12233 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I do kind of love the commitment to really castling up that castle, Toddson


EpicTangent - Jan 19, 2022 9:27:10 am PST #12234 of 30000
Why isn't everyone pelting me with JOY, dammit? - Zenkitty

I wish there was an airflow button for you, Tom, like we have on a car. Instead of circulating your own self-loathing you could be flooded with the way everybody else feels about you.

This is a really gorgeous simile, David. And also a wish that many of us share for you, Tom.


Sheryl - Jan 19, 2022 3:05:58 pm PST #12235 of 30000
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"

Timelies all!

Spent most of the workday on a webinar.(Training class for shipping biological materials.) Luckily I had soda.(Vanilla Coke in the morning, Coke Zero Sugar in the afternoon)

I'm surprised I'm not more tired as Mr. S woke up in the middle of the night not feeling well.(Runny nose/congestion) He ended up going home early from school, and Gary is at the pediatrician's office right now with him. Hopefully it will turn out to be a cold.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 19, 2022 5:33:54 pm PST #12236 of 30000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Very weird dream last night wherein I was investigating insurance fraud at an airport terminal that was being rebuilt after some kind of disaster. It involved a sinister Bradley Cooper character, and me breaking the fourth wall by being aware that he was a character played by Bradley Cooper and making references to that.


Topic!Cindy - Jan 19, 2022 7:54:23 pm PST #12237 of 30000
What is even happening?

Teppy, I'm glad Tim's dad's TB test was negative. I'm sorry this is all so hard.

Juliana, I think you did the right thing keeping Peanut home.

I'm splitting this conversation between here and the Buffy thread, but I think Joss is a narcissist, and a sociopath.

He's Spike, he's Warren/Andrew/Jonathan, he's Topher, he's Mr. Universe in Serenity, he's Xander's resentment /entitlement.

I think Joss may have minimized Xander's involvement in latter seasons, as Joss's issues rose to the fore; he no longer related to the flawed, but basically decent guy who began as his avatar.

And it explains why Buffy was "wrong" (by the show's telling) to let go of the guy who got suck jobs from vampires, because she didn't pay enough attention to him, and instead concentrated on trivialities like her mother's brain cancer and saving the world.

BTW, today is Buffy Summers' 41st birthday.