Yeah... That went well.

Mal ,'Trash'


Natter 77: I miss my friends. I miss my enemies. I miss the people I talked to every day.

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Topic!Cindy - Jan 17, 2022 4:16:03 pm PST #12167 of 15897
What is even happening?

Yeah, the talk of the day is the Vulture article. I posted about it in the Buffy thread, because I didn't know where else to put it.

What's the Vice article, Consuela?


Consuela - Jan 17, 2022 4:45:03 pm PST #12168 of 15897
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

That was more about his writing than his behavior, here: [link]


Consuela - Jan 17, 2022 7:36:52 pm PST #12169 of 15897
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Here's a great article about managing to heal when someone toxic makes something you love: [link]


NoiseDesign - Jan 18, 2022 12:26:46 am PST #12170 of 15897
"You'd think a house full of crazy people would be fun. It's actually really depressing." --Bart Simpson

Whedon was not the first boss in the history of moving pictures to make a writer cry.

This is also because so much of the entertainment industry is just broken and toxic.


Calli - Jan 18, 2022 6:56:05 am PST #12171 of 15897
Why do trees keep happening? — Eukaryote Writes

Thanks for the article, Consuela.

One thing that the Vulture article mentioned was that Buffy was considered feminist, but wasn't really. And, I think that claim suffers a bit from being made in 2022. When Buffy came out, I think it was pretty feminist for its milieu. But culturally we've moved past it. Which is a good thing, but cultural context does matter.

Joss can be a terrible boss, especially to the women on his staff and cast, and still write stuff that's feminist. People write themes they aren't personally living all the time.


Dana - Jan 18, 2022 7:16:31 am PST #12172 of 15897
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

Awesome, covid exposure at work last week. Sigh.


Steph L. - Jan 18, 2022 9:10:13 am PST #12173 of 15897
It's actually been a really hard year, when you stop and do the math. Eliot would cry, too, if it didn't take him seventy minutes of therapy, two cocktails, and a Sondheim medley before he can experience a human emotion through the haze of his PTSD.

Tim's dad is going to start receiving hospice care, although at this point he doesn't have a timeline (like 6 months to live, 6 weeks to live, etc). But he didn't really participate in his post-stroke rehab, and he's not eating much and my brother-in-law described it as "he's just winding down."

Something that complicates things is that when Tim's dad was in the hospital 3-4 weeks ago, they ordered a lab test for TB, and it takes 6 weeks to get that back, because the sample has to be cultured that long. With the Covid precautions at the nursing home (full gown, gloves, mask and face shield, hair covering), even if he has TB, it seems highly unlikely to be transmitted. However, Tim is at higher risk for TB because of the meds he takes for his RA, and has to get a TB test once a year. So not knowing whether his dad has it, he hasn't visited his dad in 3 weeks, and he's losing precious time. My opinion is that (1) his dad almost certainly doesn't have it (he doesn't have symptoms, so I don't know why the hospital ordered the test), and (2) with the full PPE precautions that are required for Covid right now, the odds of anything being transmitted are vanishingly low.

Tim talked to his rheumatologist today, who basically said the same thing: if Tim wears full PPE, he should be fine, if he really feels he needs to see his dad. (I don't like the way he worded "really feels he needs to see his dad" -- like, this is an end of life issue, sir. Yes, he needs to see his dad.)

Why does shit have to be so goddamn complicated all the fucking time? Just a tiny break would be nice, you know?


juliana - Jan 18, 2022 9:18:39 am PST #12174 of 15897
Tell me the ghost in the machine is real

Why does shit have to be so goddamn complicated all the fucking time? Just a tiny break would be nice, you know?

Word. Big support to everyone. Shit needs to get easier.

I'm keeping Peanut home from school today, because there was a cluster of COVID cases in her classroom (including her teacher) & I don't feel like taking that risk. M thinks I'm being too fearful, but I know I'd blame myself if Peanut caught it & I just can't deal with that on top of everything else. Cosmic Kids Yoga is my friend & co-teacher today.


EpicTangent - Jan 18, 2022 9:21:32 am PST #12175 of 15897
Why isn't everyone pelting me with JOY, dammit? - Zenkitty

Geez, Steph, that is a lot of Very Hard to hit at once. I wish you and Tim and his family all the best navigating your way through. Much ~ma to you all.


Consuela - Jan 18, 2022 9:53:37 am PST #12176 of 15897
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

[link]

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