Happy to celebrate Atropa.
They should film that story and show it every Christmas.
Xander ,'Same Time, Same Place'
Natter 77: I miss my friends. I miss my enemies. I miss the people I talked to every day.
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
Cass - Nov 17, 2021 7:44:20 pm PST #10660 of 30000
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.
Vortex - Nov 17, 2021 9:15:09 pm PST #10661 of 30000
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
Though I often feel like the expectations are different too—if I sent a business email as a man, people would think it was to the point but because I’m a woman they expect more niceties. Which makes me crazy.
There was a great article a while back by a guy who had a shared mailbox with his female co-worker. There was some glitch that caused his emails to go out with her sig line and vice versa. Suddenly, he was getting people questioning his information and commenting on his tone, and suddenly she was not having to make multipe requests and getting prompt responses. A few people even emailed him directly to question what "his colleague" had told them. He said he had never realized what she went through.
Sexism is a bitch.
meara - Nov 17, 2021 9:37:09 pm PST #10662 of 30000
Vortex, exactly. I think it hits me harder because I get the feedback from other women—if it were from men I’d be like “screw you sexist!”
Beverly - Nov 18, 2021 2:25:39 am PST #10663 of 30000
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.
Cash I echo what's been said about you and your spouse having been amazing raising Robin and Oliver and continuing to support them through this time in their lives. You all amaze me.
Toddson - Nov 18, 2021 5:12:49 am PST #10664 of 30000
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"
Vortex, I remember reading that. And the boss of the two people was dinging the woman because she had to spend more time on calls than the man ... and then the man realized she spent a lot of her time assuring people that, yes, she knew what she was talking about and the information she was giving them was correct and, sometimes, no the information you have/process you've "always used" is WRONG.
Laura - Nov 18, 2021 5:58:31 am PST #10665 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.
As a woman in IT in the 80s it was a very small minority of customers who would talk to me, preferring to talk to the menfolk in our company. The guys I worked with would purposely tell obvious sexists, oh you'll have to talk to Laura about that, she's our highest level tech. They of course could well handle things but enjoyed jerking them around. I worked with great guys.
sumi - Nov 18, 2021 6:36:09 am PST #10666 of 30000
Art Crawl!!!
Oh boy - what an interesting real life lesson that was . . . Too bad there isn’t some way that it could be replicated on a regular basis where it is most needed.
Random - did you know that there is such a thing as pop-up stickers??!!??
Matt the Bruins fan - Nov 18, 2021 8:12:50 am PST #10667 of 30000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
It's funny to me that in Publishing, traditionally it's the men's work that you have to be leery of. (There are happy exceptions and I work for and alongside some of them, but male writers and editors seem to have a much higher WTF?:competence ratio on average.)
Speaking of masculine competence, I'm very stoked that I managed to jury-rig my bedroom closet's sliding door back onto its tracks without having to call in the building super for repairs. He'd probably be horrified that I tightened the bracket it's anchored to with a stack of pennies, but hey, at least I'm not using them in place of fuses!
Toddson - Nov 18, 2021 8:17:44 am PST #10668 of 30000
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"
Can I say an open and shut case?
Cashmere - Nov 18, 2021 10:04:02 am PST #10669 of 30000
Now tagless for your comfort.
Random - did you know that there is such a thing as pop-up stickers??!!??WHAAAAAAAAT?
There was a great article a while back by a guy who had a shared mailbox with his female co-worker.I remember that! I also seem to recall a trans scientist who after he transitioned, he was told he was smarter than "his sister" who was actually HIM.