Spike: Taking up smoking, are you? Harmony: I am a villain, Spike. Hello!

Spike/Harm ,'Help'


Natter 77: I miss my friends. I miss my enemies. I miss the people I talked to every day.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Calli - Nov 03, 2021 4:29:30 am PDT #10359 of 30000
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Yeah, Corey has 99 problems but misandry ain’t one.

I’ve decided to do Salty Pirates this November (I.e., NaClYoHo, or National Clean Your Home month, Copperbadge’s take on NaNoWrMo). Yesterday’s “easy” task turned out to be a more difficult one due to an unexpected roach infestation. But the affected stuff is all out of the apartment now and the area cleaned. I went around and checked other areas, and that bookcase seems like the only hot spot. Still, that was kinda horrid. And it shows that I definitely needed to do NaClYoHo, so that’s something.


Jessica - Nov 03, 2021 6:29:48 am PDT #10360 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I know "Like Zorro" is the line that has most of Twitter shaking their heads but I absolutely cannot get over "leaping around like a shower dropped in an empty bath."


sj - Nov 03, 2021 6:39:57 am PDT #10361 of 30000
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Jessica, I agree, that one was even weirder.

{{{Tom}}} I'm so sorry; that is just horrible. Best of luck finding another therapist.


-t - Nov 03, 2021 7:01:11 am PDT #10362 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

It’s nice to think that that guy is very unlikely to be published by the AMA, at least.


askye - Nov 03, 2021 7:55:46 am PDT #10363 of 30000
Thrive to spite them

His novel is bad but


Tom Scola - Nov 03, 2021 7:57:23 am PDT #10364 of 30000
Mr. Scola’s wardrobe by Botany 500

That did not go well. I did not handle things well.

And then it got weird.

I got a whole lot of pushback from him, and I agreed to one more session with him. He apologized profusely, and took full responsibility for falling asleep the other night. He rightly pointed out how damaging it would be if I just cut him off without expressing any feelings about it, which is pretty much the way every relationship in my life has gone. And that while he made mistakes, HE'S not abusing me, HE'S not actively trying to hurt me, and that's an important distinction for me to make. If I just cut him off, I would just be making any future relationships I have even harder.

But I also felt he wasn't being completely honest with me. The reason he gave, that he had a fever from a virus, and that he feels better the next day, is the EXACT excuse he gave the last time he fell asleep on me. And I mentioned to him that there have been plenty of sessions where he hadn't fallen asleep, but he didn't exactly seem all there either, and I often wonder which therapist was going to show up to our sessions. He flat out denied that was the case. I had a strong sense that wasn't telling me the whole story.

And then a couple of hours later, at 8pm, I get a call from him. I didn't say much, but he went on to explain to me that along with the fever and virus, the day he fell asleep on me, he had seen the results of a blood test, which indicated a serious kidney problem. (He said the next day his MD explained to him that the results weren't as bad as they seemed). I was confused--I don't know why he called me to say this, since it doesn't change the fact that he should have cancelled the damn appointment in the first place.

So now I'm wondering what else he isn't telling me about his health (I think chemo is a strong possibility), and why is he so desperate to keep me on as a patient, and why doesn't he cancel appointments with me when he knows that he should? Just how much of his is about the money for him? Because of past abusive relationships I've had, I am unable to tell.


Dana - Nov 03, 2021 8:03:00 am PDT #10365 of 30000
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

I am obviously Not a Therapist.

And that while he made mistakes, HE'S not abusing me, HE'S not actively trying to hurt me, and that's an important distinction for me to make. If I just cut him off, I would just be making any future relationships I have even harder.

I see the importance of the distinction, but he doesn't need to abuse you in order for you to cut him off. You are allowed to control your relationships with people, especially people you're paying for a service.

So now I'm wondering what else he isn't telling me about his health (I think chemo is a strong possibility), and why is he so desperate to keep me on as a patient, and why doesn't he cancel appointments with me when he knows that he should? Just how much of his is about the money for him? Because of past abusive relationships I've had, I am unable to tell.

If he's got a serious health problem, that's a shame. But the reason is for his behavior is his issue. It's not yours to manage or even discern. You only need to take care of yourself.


sj - Nov 03, 2021 8:19:10 am PDT #10366 of 30000
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Tom, please feel free to completely ignore this, but I feel that what he just said to you was very manipulative and bordering on abusive. You can't leave or it will affect you for the rest of your life is not an okay thing for a therapist to say imho. Maybe you could at least research finding another therapist while you continue to see this one? Sorry if I'm overstepping and again feel free to completely ignore me.


Tom Scola - Nov 03, 2021 8:23:31 am PDT #10367 of 30000
Mr. Scola’s wardrobe by Botany 500

That's me paraphrasing; it's completely possible that isn't what he meant at all. And what is making this so difficult for me is that I am completely unable to discern what is and isn't abuse.

And I wouldn't be posting here if I didn't want you all to overreach.


DavidS - Nov 03, 2021 8:27:15 am PDT #10368 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Just how much of his is about the money for him?

It's primarily about the money because...

but I feel that what he just said to you was very manipulative and bordering on abusive

There's no way he should be calling you back the way he did. That's not professional.

He's being very manipulative and he's freaking out because he needs your money.

Please keep Dana's point in mind:

You are allowed to control your relationships with people, especially people you're paying for a service.

You're not responsible for his health issues. He doesn't sound like he's properly engaged with you as a therapist.