Tracy: 'When you can't run, you crawl... and when you can't crawl, when you can't do that--' Zoe: 'You find someone to carry you.'

'The Message'


Natter 76: Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Foaminess  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Theodosia - Mar 09, 2019 1:15:47 pm PST #5792 of 30019
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

One of the hardest lessons that I've learned is that sometimes it's not ME who is failing, but the situational factors are failing in and of themselves. I'm inclined to take Responsibility, and sometimes I can pull a rabbit out of a hat ("You never know, the horse may learn to talk") but sometimes I am set up for failure because of managerial failure.

And a big Yay for Mrs. Gud!


Jesse - Mar 09, 2019 2:02:16 pm PST #5793 of 30019
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

You're a brand new employee. That is not an acceptable way to interact with ANY employee, but especially a new one. Ask them for written feedback. Ask them for HR documentation that states one failure is one step away from being fired. Go up the management food chain (in email, so you have documentation) asking if this is the management strategy of the company.

And no matter what answers you get, get the hell out of that job. They're not a good workplace environment.

Also, tell your wife that all of your attention and energy HAS to be focused on your work situation, and she needs to take care of everything around the house that you usually do. That this is not up for argument, this is what a supportive spouse needs to do.

Finally: YOU ARE NOT A FAILURE. YOU ARE NOT A BAD PERSON. All of us have your back, want the best for you, and a lot of us probably want to fly out to you and have some terse but polite confrontations with some people in your life.

Just repeating all of this.


Gudanov - Mar 09, 2019 2:17:47 pm PST #5794 of 30019
Coding and Sleeping

Ask them for written feedback.

Well, it was written. It was in the team slack channel.


Dana - Mar 09, 2019 2:32:19 pm PST #5795 of 30019
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

So, it was public? That's even more bullshit.

You had a bunch of interviews, didn't you? If this company is shitty to you, you don't have to stay there.


-t - Mar 09, 2019 2:58:03 pm PST #5796 of 30019
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

That just seems ridiculous, Gud. You haven't been there long enough to have a string of failures. You've barely been there long enough to know where the coffee is kept.

Did they hire you just to have someone to blame shit on?

ETA I'm glad to hear your wife is being supportive


msbelle - Mar 09, 2019 3:30:00 pm PST #5797 of 30019
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I helped a friend cleaning out her mother's home (her childhood home) today. We had moved the mom to a retirement apartment a few miles away a few months ago. My friend is moving back into the house in June and will live there at least a year as she decides what to do as an empty-nester.

SO. MUCH. STUFF.

We took 6 bags to thrift. A full truck bed to the dump. And a full wheeled recycling container plus two bags to recycling. We were putting things on the curb we didn't think were worth keeping for a garage sale and were too big to take to thrift and they were disappearing throughout the day.

They still have 3 file cabinets to go through and lots of pictures.

Two of 3 brothers were there. One wants to throw away everything, not even separate out in anyway really. One wants to keep everything. The mom just wants to tell you the story of everything.

I am so thankful my mother is doing so much of this on her own right now. I am going to send her a text telling her that.


Laura - Mar 09, 2019 3:54:31 pm PST #5798 of 30019
Our wings are not tired.

I so wish you were closer, msbelle! I keep trying to clear out stuff. I really don't want my kids to have to do so, or my husband for that matter. Also, if I can get down to a minimal amount of stuff I can maybe move onto a boat!


msbelle - Mar 09, 2019 3:56:42 pm PST #5799 of 30019
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Well, maybe I can plan a trip. I am only taking weekend trip all this year, I think. The one I have to take in May is paid for, so I just need to save up for another one I have promised and then I can save for airfare to FL.

Maybe I will go look at Southwest fares.


megan walker - Mar 09, 2019 4:01:53 pm PST #5800 of 30019
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

Hah! I was just thinking, I should fly to msbelle and we should road trip to Florida together--there are 3 national parks there that I need to check off after all! But that is probably my overworked brain talking.

Note from the more realistic side of my brain: My sister just got an amazing deal to fly out here next month so maybe there are good deals to be had right now.


msbelle - Mar 09, 2019 4:04:20 pm PST #5801 of 30019
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I could not take the time to road trip, sadly. I want so badly a job where I can work remotely 24/7 and then I can ROAMMMMMMMM (well once E is graduated and moved somewhere and I do not have fosters and probably not until my parents are moved which will be next Nov at the earliest, probably).