That's disturbing. You're emotionally scarred and will end up badly.

Anya ,'Bring On The Night'


Natter 76: Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Foaminess  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


bennett - Jun 24, 2020 5:40:49 am PDT #22721 of 30019

flea - could you talk about coping strategies with the direct supervisor you like?


DXMachina - Jun 24, 2020 5:49:50 am PDT #22722 of 30019
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

I know it's aggravating, but the best thing might be to stick it out and start looking for a new job. That way if the hiring freezes do interfere, you still have your income while you look. Then when you do find another job, you can just leave.


flea - Jun 24, 2020 5:50:17 am PDT #22723 of 30019
information libertarian

That's how I've made it through the last year. It's not really fair to him, either. He hates the bullshit as much as I do and it's not fair to ask him to deal with my feelings as well as his own!


flea - Jun 24, 2020 5:52:24 am PDT #22724 of 30019
information libertarian

We could probably squeak by without my income for some time. And if I didn't get a new job I would be better positioned to hard-carry my children through whatever the 2020-2021 school year ends up being.


-t - Jun 24, 2020 5:54:00 am PDT #22725 of 30019
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Would not having your income be a real hardship for your family if you can't find other work right away?

Would not working make you feel better or worse than you do now?


-t - Jun 24, 2020 5:58:49 am PDT #22726 of 30019
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I'm in favor of not putting up with being treated badly by higher ups. Sticking it out for your coworkers and immediate supervisor is the kind of snare I would fall into, I get that feeling, but you do have to look out for yourself.IT's definitely not a failure on your part to care about stupid decision making and disrespect. If you can talk about your reasons either in your resignation or an exit interview, it might even help make things better there in the future

ETA - my $0.02; please keep talking through your thinking!


aurelia - Jun 24, 2020 6:00:56 am PDT #22727 of 30019
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

My industry is taking this moment to publicly air ALL the grievances. Is that something that could happen in your org? Could there be a critical mass of people with the same complaints?


Cashmere - Jun 24, 2020 6:03:23 am PDT #22728 of 30019
Now tagless for your comfort.

flea, there is such a huge disparity in how libraries are operating. It really comes down to effective leadership and respect for the employees. In a library the size of yours, in a city like that, I couldn't blame you at all for saying to hell with it. Your safety and the health and well being of your family comes first.


Jessica - Jun 24, 2020 6:26:47 am PDT #22729 of 30019
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Sticking it out for your coworkers and immediate supervisor is the kind of snare I would fall into

This is how I stayed at the BBC three years longer than I should have. When one of my co-workers was the first to quit, it gave everyone else a much needed kick in the pants to start looking elsewhere, and within a year everyone in the department had moved on and left Toxic Asshole Manager on her own.

And if I didn't get a new job I would be better positioned to hard-carry my children through whatever the 2020-2021 school year ends up being.

This is pretty huge too - if I couldn't work from home, I'd be seriously considering if my household could get by on one income.


flea - Jun 24, 2020 6:38:31 am PDT #22730 of 30019
information libertarian

Oh god, the only job posted in the metro area right now is for a children's librarian, a position requiring a masters degree and 3-5 years of experience. Guess how much it pays? $17 an hour. Don't go into librarianship, people.