I got stupid. The money was too good.

Jayne ,'Objects In Space'


Natter 76: Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Foaminess  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Cashmere - Jun 24, 2020 6:03:23 am PDT #22728 of 30019
Now tagless for your comfort.

flea, there is such a huge disparity in how libraries are operating. It really comes down to effective leadership and respect for the employees. In a library the size of yours, in a city like that, I couldn't blame you at all for saying to hell with it. Your safety and the health and well being of your family comes first.


Jessica - Jun 24, 2020 6:26:47 am PDT #22729 of 30019
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Sticking it out for your coworkers and immediate supervisor is the kind of snare I would fall into

This is how I stayed at the BBC three years longer than I should have. When one of my co-workers was the first to quit, it gave everyone else a much needed kick in the pants to start looking elsewhere, and within a year everyone in the department had moved on and left Toxic Asshole Manager on her own.

And if I didn't get a new job I would be better positioned to hard-carry my children through whatever the 2020-2021 school year ends up being.

This is pretty huge too - if I couldn't work from home, I'd be seriously considering if my household could get by on one income.


flea - Jun 24, 2020 6:38:31 am PDT #22730 of 30019
information libertarian

Oh god, the only job posted in the metro area right now is for a children's librarian, a position requiring a masters degree and 3-5 years of experience. Guess how much it pays? $17 an hour. Don't go into librarianship, people.


bennett - Jun 24, 2020 6:56:36 am PDT #22731 of 30019

The library market, being primarily government funded, is going to seriously suck for the next few years. Is there something else you could do, at least part-time, to help cover bills and still be there for your kids?


Trudy Booth - Jun 24, 2020 7:44:26 am PDT #22732 of 30019
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Toddson, you're giving me flashbacks!

Just as I was moving six years ago this week about ten square feet of my oft-patched living room ceiling wound up on my living room floor. My Super was apologetically taking photos at the landlord's request and we joked about my long-game... how I'd managed to sneak upstairs for ten years and spill water on the floor

Hang in there - you're in the home stretch.


-t - Jun 24, 2020 7:50:32 am PDT #22733 of 30019
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

a position requiring a masters degree and 3-5 years of experience. Guess how much it pays? $17 an hour

That is appalling


Jesse - Jun 24, 2020 8:27:26 am PDT #22734 of 30019
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

That IS appalling.

Also it's admitting I've failed. I should be able to just not care about stupid decision making and disrespect.

And that is not failure!

flea, you're in a brutal situation because it doesn't sound like there is another job out there you just have to find. But it may still be worthwhile to quit this one.


Calli - Jun 24, 2020 8:45:22 am PDT #22735 of 30019
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

flea, that sucks. Work is a huge chunk of most people's lives, so having it be unpleasant is definitely a burden.

When I was in non-profit work, we had a number of people with MLS degrees in Knowledge Management positions. If you'd be open to it, you could consider broadening your search for something like that.


msbelle - Jun 24, 2020 9:14:40 am PDT #22736 of 30019
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Do you have any interest in contact tracing? Not that it would pay well either.


Theodosia - Jun 24, 2020 10:40:57 am PDT #22737 of 30019
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I'm inclined to side with the people who say start the job search now and hold up for a bit on the resigning (though just knowing you can when you finally decide to is a little freeing), because things are changing or going to change -- so much depends on the next couple months with Captain Trumps (you could get furloughed again!), they could lay off the library staff because of budget cuts and then you DO get Unemployment, and then after the election we could have a sane responsible President which will make many things seem less stressful.

OTOH, I'm not the one who is ready to cry after a day's work of getting disrespected and ordered into the epidemic equivalent of going over the top into a hail of machine gun fire.

You will have my respect no matter what choices you make.