Lorne: Once the word spreads you beat up an innocent old man, well, the truly terrible will think twice before going toe-to-toe with our Avenging Angel. Spike: Yes. The geriatric community will be soiling their nappies when they hear you're on the case. Bravo.

'The Cautionary Tale of Numero Cinco'


Natter 76: Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Foaminess  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


DXMachina - Mar 21, 2020 1:14:20 pm PDT #18336 of 30019
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

ND that sucks for everyone involved. So sorry.

anxiety isn't my usual thing either but definitely feeling it lately

I was discussing similar with one of my students over e-mail. We are both people who tend to be socially distant even before all this started. I mean, really, this is the lifestyle I was born for, but circumstances are ruining it for me.

I just uploaded my first lecture. Now to check to see if I actually sound coherent.


JZ - Mar 21, 2020 1:22:04 pm PDT #18337 of 30019
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Same here with feeling like depression and anxiety have actually done a great job of preparing me for this!

The conference I was at was actually a week and a half ago, but still it wasn't just surgeons--clinical cardiologists, anesthesiologists, and NPs and PAs across multiple divisions. If my symptoms hadn't shown up when they did,


NoiseDesign - Mar 21, 2020 1:26:36 pm PDT #18338 of 30019
Our wings are not tired

Thanks folks. I'm pretty much a mess today. I have called each of my employees to let them know what is happening and that the official letter is coming through docusign on Monday. Thankfully I only really completely broke down on the phone once.

I've been building this company for more than a decade, actually almost two decades if you go back to my first origins freelancing after leaving Imagineering. I'm literally watching what I've done with my life crumble around me.


JZ - Mar 21, 2020 1:26:40 pm PDT #18339 of 30019
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Dammit, the board keeps eating my post.


Theodosia - Mar 21, 2020 1:27:18 pm PDT #18340 of 30019
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

ND, that's so damn damn tough. But if they get furloughed, that means they might have a company to come back to, on the other side of this -- fingers crossed.

I got out to get fabric and other sewing supplies! But then I had to dig out my old sewing machine, which I think has been packed up since we moved 20 years ago! And then I had to rearrange my study so that I have a sewing table set up, which meant moving major pieces of furniture, then cleaning behind where the furniture was (and it appears A Cat did a Bad Thing there, so extra-scrubbing) and rearranging again.

So now waiting for the fabric (kitty faces! so cute!) to go through the dryer and then we can see if I remember how not to run a sewing machine needle through my finger.


Jessica - Mar 21, 2020 1:27:25 pm PDT #18341 of 30019
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Oh Drew (and Kristin!) I know how hard that was for you. I am so sorry.


JZ - Mar 21, 2020 1:27:40 pm PDT #18342 of 30019
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

KB, how awful! I'm so sorry that happened, but so glad you had the presence of mind to not respond or escalate, just let them rant and wind themselves down and move on. I can't imagine how difficult that must have been for you.

ND, I am so sorry. You've poured your heart into that business and been such a good, conscientious employer. How incredibly frustrating and sad to have to take that step.


Tom Scola - Mar 21, 2020 1:30:26 pm PDT #18343 of 30019
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

I'm so sorry, ND.


Theodosia - Mar 21, 2020 1:38:16 pm PDT #18344 of 30019
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

JZ, fingers crossed for you and the family, too, my heart goes out to Matilda in particular. In the creative arts you do get turned down a whole lot, no matter how talented, so in a sense it's good practice for later attempts, particular when she gets into a different high school and finds some great teachers and opportunities.

ND, I hope you can feel in your heart that it isn't YOU who failed, it's much the same as a big earthquake or other disaster taking control of the wheel. We are all helpless to a slightly greater or slightly lesser extent in this pandemic. The worst in some ways is not knowing how this is going to be over, nor in what shape we're going to be in when it is.

But you've built a hell of a reputation in your business, and when the creative industry comes back (and it will!!!) they're going to want the best again.


Jesse - Mar 21, 2020 1:51:42 pm PDT #18345 of 30019
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Thinking VERY negative thoughts toward JZ! Hope you're OK, too, Cashmere.

That must be so hard, ND. Good luck.

My only anxiety suggestion is total avoidance via getting engaged in something else. Willa Paskin had a bunch of TV recommendations in Slate the other day, most of which are not in English, so you really have to focus, which sounds good to me.