Very convincing. Makes me completely want to put myself under government control. Please take me to where you can make me unconscious and naked.

Riley ,'Help'


Natter 76: Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Foaminess  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Matt the Bruins fan - Nov 07, 2018 6:59:50 am PST #1705 of 30019
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Happy about Kim Davis being defeated by a man she would not issue a marriage license to!

David Ermold lost the Democratic primary to the eventual winner Caudill, but hey, still a Democrat who's promised to treat all applicants the same.


Toddson - Nov 07, 2018 7:02:20 am PST #1706 of 30019
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

For Utah, I saw an item about one of the state senators - since they were voting on whether to legalize medical marijuana - thought it would be a good idea to know what it was about. (Seemingly no one in the state senate had ever tried it.) So he had a friend drive him to Las Vegas where he bought a package of cannabis gummies and tried one ... said it (1) didn't taste very good and (2) he didn't feel much effect from it. I guess he gets points for at least having an idea of what he would be voting on.


-t - Nov 07, 2018 7:13:56 am PST #1707 of 30019
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Heh. That is notoriously what everyone says the first time, while they are seeming very stoned to everyone around them.


Theodosia - Nov 07, 2018 7:33:03 am PST #1708 of 30019
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

It's more like a Big Blue Splash, but I'll take it. News from NH is that it turned out Very Blue, and Maine now has a Dem governor.


askye - Nov 07, 2018 7:37:16 am PST #1709 of 30019
Thrive to spite them

I had to leave work because of an anxiety attack. Not like an emotional one this is pure physical. It is rather odd not to be anxious about something but having my body react like it is.


DavidS - Nov 07, 2018 7:49:58 am PST #1710 of 30019
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I know people worked their asses off in FL, GA and TX to get the vote as close as they did.

So those are disappointing losses, but in FL and GA those margins are razor thin, and it's a huge advance in TX.

Taking the House back was by far the most important element of the election and the Dems did that. That puts an immediate brake on Trump's agenda. And allows all sorts of oversight.

I'm really heartened by all the grassroots advances by the Dems, and the women of color they put in the House. That's the future of the Democratic Party.

I think the Dems need to really focus on getting control of states - that was the Republican strategy back in 2010, and it had a huge effect in their voter suppression tactics.

Fighting for enfranchisement is really one of the biggest issues, and that needs to be a priority. The system has allowed for too much shenanigans.

I don't know what to tell the people that are crushingly disappointed by the results. I presume they weren't grinding down on every poll the way I was like a political junkie.

2016 wasn't just some aberration. The country is really deeply divided. Dems fought hard and got the win they needed.

The great work continues.


Zenkitty - Nov 07, 2018 7:58:47 am PST #1711 of 30019
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Overall I'm satisfied with how things went last night. Not completely happy, I wanted Beto and Gillum to win, and I'm still holding out hope for Abrams. But we got the House, which is huge, and lots of excellent results, and we have not seen the last of Beto, Gillum, or Abrams. Frankly I suspect voter-rigging shenanigans in all three of those races, but doubt that'll ever be investigated.

I listened to Abrams not-concession speech and man, she is a force of nature. She is not going away.


DavidS - Nov 07, 2018 8:09:07 am PST #1712 of 30019
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I agree, Zen. Beto, Gillums and Abrams are all important figures for the future of the Democratic party. Really impressive candidates.

I'm also really heartened to see some important Midwest swings towards the Democrats. Those are going to be hugely important in the 2020 election. The ruling against gerrymandering in PA will be huge. Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Iowa had good results.

Fucking, Ohio, though! Pissing me off.

On the other hand, I'm having warmer thoughts for Kansas and Oklahoma than I ever have before. And Iowa had some good results too. And New Mexico, and Arizona is really close.

In California, I will note that the entire Democratic leadership is not just Northern Californian but straight out of San Francisco. Gavin and DiFi were mayor. Kamala began as Gavin's DA. And Nancy Pelosi is my rep.

Auntie Maxine is SoCal though.

San Francisco values, y'all.


Steph L. - Nov 07, 2018 8:20:45 am PST #1713 of 30019
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

Fucking, Ohio, though! Pissing me off.

Try being queer here. Yeesh. I thought this state was getting better, though my corner of it is more progressive than a lot of the rest of the state.


DavidS - Nov 07, 2018 8:22:53 am PST #1714 of 30019
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I lived in Ohio for four years! I want better for it.

Here's a comment from somebody campaigning in TX I'm pulling from a sports board:

"I know everyone wants to give their hot takes on Beto, but he ran a great campaign, and it boosted turnout everywhere in the state, and definitely pushed MANY Democrats over the edge to win House seats, as well as State House & Senate Seats. We flipped TWELVE State House seats, and TWO State Senate seats. Now, we're still far from having any kind of say in the legislative chambers, but this bodes well going forward. Dallas-Fort Worth itself flipped 7 of those seats. We worked really hard here in Dallas, and the numbers show it. And Tarrant County (Fort Worth, Arlington, etc.), longtime Republican stronghold, actually voted for Beto by a few thousand votes."