Note for history: Trump has been pardoning corrupt government officials and businessmen this week.
Well of course. He was sacking honest government officials last week. You need to keep these things in balance.
Actually, I was thinking it would be sort of like a pet. You know, we could...we could name her Trixie, or Miss Kitty Fantastico, or something.
Tara ,'Empty Places'
Natter 76: Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Foaminess
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
billytea - Feb 18, 2020 12:07:30 pm PST #16482 of 30019
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.
Sheryl - Feb 18, 2020 12:53:36 pm PST #16483 of 30019
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"
Timelies all!
Health~ma for all the sick Buffistas and Buffista-adjacent folk.
Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 18, 2020 1:04:36 pm PST #16484 of 30019
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
I just tell myself accepting pardons means they won't be able to plead the Fifth down the line if they should be subpoenaed to testify regarding someone else's criminal actions...
-t - Feb 18, 2020 1:18:46 pm PST #16485 of 30019
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
Is that true?
Calli made me laugh with the vampires. So that's why they want you to say "you're welcome" so insistently!
shrift - Feb 18, 2020 1:25:31 pm PST #16486 of 30019
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty
Note for history: Trump has been pardoning corrupt government officials and businessmen this week.
I'm not an Illinois resident anymore, but I can't imagine clemency for Blagojevich is going to be a... popular decision.
Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 18, 2020 2:19:44 pm PST #16487 of 30019
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
Is that true?
I'm not sure. The argument I've heard is that accepting a pardon is admission of guilt, it's just the punishment/consequences that get handwaved away. If you've already admitted guilt, you can't invoke protection against incriminating yourself regarding those charges if called as a witness in someone else's trial.
Lawyers?
DXMachina - Feb 18, 2020 3:02:17 pm PST #16488 of 30019
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.
Not a lawyer, but I don't think that's true. There are plenty of cases where someone innocent has been wrongfully convicted and imprisoned and has then been pardoned, essentially because they aren't guilty. Blagojevich got clemency, which means his sentence is terminated, but he was not pardoned.
amych - Feb 18, 2020 3:20:27 pm PST #16489 of 30019
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?
We are up to our ears in boxes and yet have SO MUCH TO PACK and I hate it. But shiny new house in a few days, so I will be strong!!!!!!
(And then moving and painting hassles before we're really in there, but the end is in sight.)
-t - Feb 18, 2020 3:35:05 pm PST #16490 of 30019
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
House!
meara - Feb 18, 2020 3:42:22 pm PST #16491 of 30019
Also even if that was true it would only apply to things that would incriminate them that they had already been convicted of, not anything new they do or did, or anything they hadn't already been caught for or charged with?