I may be love's bitch, but at least I'm man enough to admit it.

Spike ,'Sleeper'


Natter 76: Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Foaminess  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Fred Pete - Dec 10, 2019 7:12:13 am PST #14501 of 30019
Ann, that's a ferret.

Gud, first, what was said above. If your wife could text you, she could also report the outage. Take it from someone who's been there.

Second, once again, GET HELP! I enjoy road trips. And I've started seeing someone who may enjoy road trips even more than I do. And we live near I-70, so there's a fairly direct route to your city. Do I have to drive out there and drag you to a counselor?


askye - Dec 10, 2019 7:15:20 am PST #14502 of 30019
Thrive to spite them

Because emotional abuse can be hard to pinpoint, it is important to look for patterns of behaviors that could indicate abuse.

Criticism. Unrelenting criticism of what you say or do with a specific intention to display power.

Shame and blame. Sometimes emotional abuse manifests as incessant blaming and shaming for anything and everything. And, this goes two ways. Abusers may deflect blame or their responsibility for any hurtful actions, leaving the survivor feeling like they are the one at fault (read: gaslighting)

Threats. Threatening in emotionally abusive relationships often happens two ways: threatening physical harm and threatening you to do something you do not want to do.

Control. Emotional abusers may control your finances in an attempt to force you to stay in an abusive relationship. (Sad fact: survivors often cite financial manipulation as a primary reason they stay with an abusive partner.)

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Gudanov - Dec 10, 2019 7:48:26 am PST #14503 of 30019
Coding and Sleeping

Therapy hasn't been very helpful and costs too much. I feel like I shouldn't have said anything, sorry. I shouldn't just vent.


msbelle - Dec 10, 2019 8:01:32 am PST #14504 of 30019
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

So you've been in therapy? How long?

Did the therapists echo any of what we have been saying.

Your company has an EAP, that should not cost anything.


lisah - Dec 10, 2019 8:41:27 am PST #14505 of 30019
Punishingly Intricate

Also, you are worth any cost, Gud! But, yes, take advantage of your company's EAP!


Dana - Dec 10, 2019 9:07:16 am PST #14506 of 30019
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Of course you can vent. But we'll disagree with you when you say unkind things about yourself, because they're not true.


msbelle - Dec 10, 2019 9:11:11 am PST #14507 of 30019
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

And you wouldn't stand for a friend being self-abusive.


Amy - Dec 10, 2019 9:43:56 am PST #14508 of 30019
Because books.

Saying this gently, Gud, but you also have to do the work when you're in therapy. You need to listen to what the therapist tells you, and act on what you learn.

We love you and we're happy to have you vent here whenever you like. That's what we all do! But we're also going to keep trying to help you understand that you are not a failure.


Jesse - Dec 10, 2019 10:04:54 am PST #14509 of 30019
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

It wasn't joint therapy with your wife, was it?


Jesse - Dec 10, 2019 10:24:27 am PST #14510 of 30019
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

At any rate, if you hear nothing else, please hear that being in a meeting while something unrelated is happening at home isn't "fucking up." It isn't "failing." It's just the way the world works!

I mean, unless you cut the power lines and sped off away from the house. Then maybe you did something wrong.