Flames wouldn't be eternal if they actually consumed anything.

Lilah ,'Not Fade Away'


Natter 76: Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Foaminess  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Steph L. - Nov 05, 2019 9:24:24 am PST #13066 of 30019
I look more rad than Lutheranism

no exchange, instead choose a project as a group and make donations (possibly donors choose or a direct support need, or bail fund)

I would definitely be in for this, because it's easy for me to send money, whereas shopping and then getting my butt to the post office is a task that gets disproportionately hard during the holidays.


Laura - Nov 05, 2019 9:31:37 am PST #13067 of 30019
Our wings are not tired.

I like either the ornament or group project ideas.


Toddson - Nov 05, 2019 9:47:57 am PST #13068 of 30019
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

May I offer a public service announcement? Don't drink and dance.


sj - Nov 05, 2019 9:50:55 am PST #13069 of 30019
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

I would be up to an alternate exchange that doesn't require a visit to the post office.


amyparker - Nov 05, 2019 10:02:38 am PST #13070 of 30019
You've got friends to have good times with. When you need to share the trauma of a badly-written book with someone, that's when you go to family.

In favor of the group project: my current place is half the size of the Salt Lake house and we've had to adopt a "one in, one out" attitude towards stuff, I don't do a tree, and Mount Tsundoku is never going to be scaled at this rate.


Jessica - Nov 05, 2019 10:04:51 am PST #13071 of 30019
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

ornament exchange 1 ornament only

Seems a bit Christmas-only.

I like local Etsy or donations though.


Theodosia - Nov 05, 2019 10:11:47 am PST #13072 of 30019
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I could manage an ornament, I think. I've whiffed on some previous exchanges. If I try concentrating on a very cute ornament instead of trying to tailor it obsessively to be the One Perfect Ornament That Will Change the Life of the Recipient, I could do it.

I am a gift-giving mess, generally.


meara - Nov 05, 2019 10:16:20 am PST #13073 of 30019

I feel like it's hard enough for me to get/find/buy presents for folks in person. Yikes! Can't believe it's almost time for that!

Also, back at work, went through and deleted 1000 emails. But next steps are training, and apparently I'm not yet updated in the system so can't access it, and open enrollment for next years health. Ack!! I can figure out that one plan is better if I go to the out of pocket max. But the only time I've managed that was last year when I blew past it with the hospital stays! This year even with all the PT and stuff, I'm close but no dice. But better plan when maxing is a high deductible and requires paying for meds at 20%, so if I don't mac, I think that one would be worse. Decisions!


Sophia Brooks - Nov 05, 2019 10:30:29 am PST #13074 of 30019
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

I like the group project idea!


sj - Nov 05, 2019 10:41:12 am PST #13075 of 30019
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

It's nowhere near what Sofia is doing, but I did manage to sort through and recycle a pile of mail today and pay some bills. Slow progress on the clutter.