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Spike's Bitches 49: As usual, I'm here to help you, and I... are you naked under there?

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-t - Oct 26, 2021 8:44:12 am PDT #7709 of 7718
Well, not where I'm from. But maybe I'm not there anymore

Well, that seems like a disturbing pattern


Steph L. - Oct 26, 2021 8:46:21 am PDT #7710 of 7718
Without a plan, it turns out, a lot of decisions are really hard. Eliot might actually hate his shrink. Yes, Eliot is getting healthier or whatever, but at what cost? He used to be a mess of scar tissue and substance abuse, but he could get dressed in the morning without an existential crisis.

That seems like a gigantic lawsuit waiting to be unleashed.


-t - Oct 26, 2021 9:02:28 am PDT #7711 of 7718
Well, not where I'm from. But maybe I'm not there anymore

That is true


DavidS - Oct 26, 2021 12:26:02 pm PDT #7712 of 7718
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

That seems like a gigantic lawsuit waiting to be unleashed.

Somebody in the commentariat-verse noted that this incident is the outgrowth of (a) vastly increased film/TV production as streaming services are all creating new content; and (b) digital film creating cheaper production costs; plus, (c) many investors are using film production as a tax dodge.

So to feed this vastly increased demand for new filmed content you've got all these new crews out there, shooting on the cheap and looking to cut corners at every turn. They don't have experienced people in key jobs and they don't have the production experience / institutional knowledge to understand why labor/time intensive safety practices were put in place originally.


Trudy Booth - Oct 26, 2021 1:27:15 pm PDT #7713 of 7718
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I can see all of those things having an effect, but they mostly look like excuses to me thanks to COVID. Production is still down and skilled people are out of work. The things that are shooting are using smaller casts and crews than they would have. Even with restrictions loosening to the degree they have much of that new content uses simple setups with as few people you need to spend money testing (usually twice) as possible.

In this case at least the errors were SO basic. Lock up the guns. Don't hand them to an actor without them being opened in front of you. Don't take them without them being opened in front of you. There's no level of expertise that would have made a succession of people (who all knew better) ignoring really basic rules safe. The culture of this environment was bad and dangerous and IATSE members had already walked over it.


DavidS - Oct 26, 2021 2:57:39 pm PDT #7714 of 7718
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

In this case at least the errors were SO basic.

That's true, there was no adherence to even the basic protocols.


Tom Scola - Oct 26, 2021 3:27:57 pm PDT #7715 of 7718
Like a pinch on the neck from Mr Spock

And no matter how inexperienced the rest of the crew is, the AD in question has 25 years of experience in the business; he was on the crew for one of the Crow sequels, for fuck’s sake.

He damn well knows he isn’t supposed to be handling guns on set.


askye - Oct 26, 2021 3:48:55 pm PDT #7716 of 7718
Thrive to spite them

From the articles I read it sounds like Halls didn't give a damn about safety at all and was more worried about getting things done.


askye - Oct 26, 2021 4:33:27 pm PDT #7717 of 7718
Thrive to spite them

I went to my aunt's and helped work with the obituary. Mostly I typed things up and hoped it could be moved around.

There was so much to put in and trying to get it with out making it cost a fortune is hard.

People have been bringing food and when I went to get groceries last time I didn't get a lot thinking we would be gone. So I took a bunch from her.

My period finally started and I want to just....I feel like crap. And Dad only has white towels and white sheets.

But we have fire logs and can make s mores at some point.


sj - Oct 27, 2021 1:09:13 pm PDT #7718 of 7718
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

And no matter how inexperienced the rest of the crew is, the AD in question has 25 years of experience in the business; he was on the crew for one of the Crow sequels, for fuck’s sake.

Yikes, that makes it so much worse in my opinion.

ltc's teacher this year is awesome for the most part, but more than two days notice that all the kids will be wearing orange and black to school on Friday would have been nice. ltc has lots of Halloween type things to wear, but she has now decided that there can't be any other colors in the outfit. So, this should be fun.


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