You know me! I'm like, "Go school! It's your birthday!" Or something to that effect.

Willow ,'Empty Places'


Spike's Bitches 49: As usual, I'm here to help you, and I... are you naked under there?

Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Vortex - Apr 11, 2021 10:31:33 am PDT #7571 of 8079
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Honey, no apology necessary, we're here for you.


askye - Apr 11, 2021 12:35:57 pm PDT #7572 of 8079
Thrive to spite them

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Trudy Booth - Apr 12, 2021 8:58:24 am PDT #7573 of 8079
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

"Stretching their wings" sounds likely to me, Laura.

You guys will figure it out. Your relationships are based in love and respect and will eventually settle into good adult patterns,


EpicTangent - Apr 12, 2021 9:29:01 am PDT #7574 of 8079
Why isn't everyone pelting me with JOY, dammit? - Zenkitty

I'll invite them to family gatherings and remember their birthdays, but my life decisions going forward are based on our needs, not theirs.

This absolutely sounds like the right way to do this. You're leaving the door open for them when they get their heads on straight, but in the meanwhile living your own life.


Laura - Apr 12, 2021 10:00:40 am PDT #7575 of 8079
Our wings are not tired.

#1 son did chit chat about normal stuff like Spring and movies with me on messenger this morning. I deliberately didn't ask him about anything like when is he getting his NY driver license, or anything preachy. Just light and breezy stuff.


Cass - Apr 12, 2021 6:48:49 pm PDT #7576 of 8079
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

my boys continue to disappoint.
I'm disappointed in them. They are lucky to have wonderful parents in you and Brendon. Hopefully this is a phase and they'll get their asses in gear soon.

And you can always vent here.


JenP - Apr 13, 2021 8:50:33 am PDT #7577 of 8079

That stinks, Laura. I'm sorry. Yeah, totally vent here.


Laura - Apr 13, 2021 10:47:50 am PDT #7578 of 8079
Our wings are not tired.

I really appreciate having the safe space to vent. I can talk to my sisters, or sisters-in-law, but they tend to get protective of me and blame his wife or whatever. It is almost surely a development phase. I know I was super shitty to my seriously awesome parents until sometime in my 20s. I spent the next 40 years feeling guilty about it!! I asked my mother many times how she even tolerated my existence, she just shrugged and said she told herself, this too shall pass. And I do believe it will. I am way more upset about how this has devastated Brendon who has (in his mind) lost his little buddies and feels like it was all an illusion and they never loved him and never will. He is way more emotional than me by nature and I just can't convince him it isn't personal and it is just a particularly shitty stage of life.

Thank you again for the permission to let it out.


NoiseDesign - Apr 13, 2021 2:40:36 pm PDT #7579 of 8079
Our wings are not tired

I just want to give Brendon a big hug.


Laura - Apr 13, 2021 3:12:39 pm PDT #7580 of 8079
Our wings are not tired.

He'd appreciate it!