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Spike's Bitches 49: As usual, I'm here to help you, and I... are you naked under there?

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Laura - Apr 18, 2019 3:53:38 pm PDT #5802 of 8216
Our wings are not tired.

DH talked to one of our doctors today who has a son going through a similar situation. It helped him to talk about it. The doctor said the number of OD cases they deal with when he is on ER rounds is horrifying, and of course he has no real control over his adult child either.

He was given a check by one of my practices because he designed a website for them, but couldn't get it cashed. Ha! He gave it to me to deposit to pay some of his indebtedness, and then let me take him grocery shopping rather than give him cash. He didn't even ask for cash. Maybe this scared him, who knows since he hasn't actually told me what happened.


Laura - Apr 18, 2019 4:03:04 pm PDT #5803 of 8216
Our wings are not tired.

I agree completely, David. However, it would be very complex and probably unsuccessful for me to get him committed. He has been hospitalized 4 times now and each time he quickly convinces them that he is just fine. He is absurdly brilliant and has comfortably conversed with doctors all his life. The last time he had an adverse reaction to LSD and actually flagged down a police car to protect him from whatever imaginary thing was after him. They of course took him to the hospital and he was out as soon as the mandatory time was up.

Working with his roommates I am pushing him to address his mental illness. He knows he has problems, but he still rejects the notion of anyone professional being able to help him. He is completely dysfunctional in many ways, but his living in an apartment with 4 relatively sane good kids is better than him living with us on many levels. If I don't feel comfortable by June going north then I will tell him he has to go with me. He is financially dependent on me and doesn't have a lot of options there.


DavidS - Apr 18, 2019 4:13:32 pm PDT #5804 of 8216
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I realize you don't have tremendous authority over your adult son.

If I don't feel comfortable by June going north then I will tell him he has to go with me. He is financially dependent on me and doesn't have a lot of options there.

I'll feel safer if you have him up at the lake.

I'm so sorry. I love you. Worried. I know you and Brendon must be heartbroken and stressed out of your minds.


Laura - Apr 18, 2019 4:19:37 pm PDT #5805 of 8216
Our wings are not tired.

It is hard. The only way he gets to stay here this summer is if he is working full time, and I think he is stable. He already knows he has to communicate with me every day or I show up at his place. I have a key. I have access to his bank account, know his passwords. I treat him more like a 13 year old than the 27 he is, but he doesn't fight me on that. It is very stressful, but I remind myself often that all I can do is the best I can do. I can't want for him, he has to want more out of life for himself.


Topic!Cindy - Apr 18, 2019 5:42:14 pm PDT #5806 of 8216
What is even happening?

Laura, I'm so sorry. How scary and heart-breaking.

Can you (and the roommates) get Narcan in the house, for a just-in-case situation?

This article is a couple of years old, but talks about the particulars of getting it in your state: [link]


aurelia - Apr 18, 2019 5:55:00 pm PDT #5807 of 8216
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

Oh, Laura. I'm sorry. I wish we had a magical solution for you.


Steph L. - Apr 18, 2019 5:55:20 pm PDT #5808 of 8216
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Can you (and the roommates) get Narcan in the house, for a just-in-case situation?

That's a really good idea, Cindy.


NoiseDesign - Apr 18, 2019 8:46:44 pm PDT #5809 of 8216
Our wings are not tired

Laura I just want to give you and Brendon the biggest hugs. My heart aches for you both.


Shir - Apr 18, 2019 9:55:48 pm PDT #5810 of 8216
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

Oh Laura and family. This is such a difficult and heartbreaking situation. And your kid has an amazing support net. Lots of thoughts and ~ma to you.


Laura - Apr 19, 2019 2:50:18 am PDT #5811 of 8216
Our wings are not tired.

I love you all. Thank you for giving me a safe place to let some of this out. I will look into the Narcan option. At least 2 of his roommates have EMS training and the next door neighbor "friend" is where this issue originated, and the evicted visiting girl. The roommies are on a new level of alert but they would probably like having that option. Life in the big city, they at least got a quick and overwhelming response from emergency services when they called 911.