Jayne, your mouth is talking. You might wanna look to that.

Mal ,'Serenity'


Spike's Bitches 49: As usual, I'm here to help you, and I... are you naked under there?

Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Topic!Cindy - Apr 15, 2019 2:52:38 pm PDT #5774 of 8216
What is even happening?

Is "Next year in Las Vegas" the new "Next year in Jerusalem"?


Laura - Apr 15, 2019 3:17:08 pm PDT #5775 of 8216
Our wings are not tired.

That was my thought as well!


Laura - Apr 15, 2019 3:20:58 pm PDT #5776 of 8216
Our wings are not tired.

It is kinda odd since I am not Jewish, but my closest local friend for the last 15 years was so I was always invited to her celebrations and she and her family would come to my Christmas gathering. Now her mom has died, son moved to Philly, and she moved to Vegas. So our traditions are all askew.


Deena - Apr 15, 2019 5:21:36 pm PDT #5777 of 8216
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

Wow, Shir. I hadn't really thought that through. A church I used to attend did one every year, but I kind of felt all culturally misappropriate so it made me uncomfortable. It's one of the reasons we stopped going there. I know they didn't have the same focus, nor did they make sure everything was clean or kosher. I like the sound of yours. Queer, feminist, freedom, social responsibility... I want to attend yours. Though not Jewish, also not likely to check the closet floors.

Cindy, I am pretty good on the ATM, but I haven't been able to break myself of VIN number.


Shir - Apr 15, 2019 10:40:23 pm PDT #5778 of 8216
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

The usual suggestion I've seen is a beet instead of the shank bone, and either a small white eggplant or a wooden egg from a craft store in place of the egg. The beet can be roasted to symbolize the Temple sacrifice, plus roasting it makes it drip red juices, which kind of adds to the whole bloody symbolism thing.

The beet, right! I heard of it as "sheistalku tzarotienu" (may our woes/troubles be vanished. A wordplay in Hebrew, for selek (beet) and "lesalek" (begone/vanish). Wordplay is strong in Passover's Haggadah). For the egg I have the combination of some rice in the shape of an egg with a ball of yellow rice inside, to resemble the yolk.

I saw a suggestion this year to add Ruth's Cup to symbolize welcoming converts. That's in addition to Miriam's Cup. And Elijah's Cup, of course. And I think there was one other cup. We might be getting to the point of too many symbolic foods and cups.

In my version of the Haggadah, first cup is a cup to freedom, second for the act of Exodus (symbolical/metaphorical as wanted), third for social justice and responsibility, fourth for community and the ties and bonds we'd like to strengthen/establish. I change the text according to what happened in that year.

Good luck with your Seder, Hil.

Is "Next year in Las Vegas" the new "Next year in Jerusalem"?

It is excellent.

Deena, you are always invited to have the Seder with me.


Shir - Apr 17, 2019 5:36:51 am PDT #5779 of 8216
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

And now, srarting to arrange things and my place for the Seder. *gulp*

May the odds be ever in sanity's favor.


WindSparrow - Apr 17, 2019 6:55:08 am PDT #5780 of 8216
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

Good luck with that, Shir.

Holidays with special feasts = not of the sane.

May the love and fellowship be great.


Shir - Apr 17, 2019 10:53:09 am PDT #5781 of 8216
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

Thank you, WS. It's a Seder of friends, but the first that I'm hosting, so lots of preparations there.

And just finished this year's Haggadah. Somehow it reached 15 pages. I used the last sentences from Jamaica Kincaid's A Small Place on the cover: "Of course, the whole thing is, once you cease to b a master, once you throw off your master's yoke, you are no longer human rubbish, you are just a human being, and all the things that adds up to. So, too, with the slaves. Once they are no longers slaves, once they are free, they are no longer noble and exalted; they are just human beings."

Because I think we need to think of these words, in a Seder in Jerusalem in 2019.


Toddson - Apr 17, 2019 11:56:11 am PDT #5782 of 8216
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

I don't suppose substituting a Cadbury chocolate (Easter) egg would work ....


-t - Apr 17, 2019 12:37:04 pm PDT #5783 of 8216
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Roasting a Cadbury egg does not seem like a good idea.