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Spike's Bitches 49: As usual, I'm here to help you, and I... are you naked under there?

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Zenkitty - May 25, 2017 6:22:02 pm PDT #369 of 8185
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Fwiw, though, when I had thrush the only symptoms were a cough and chelitis. The white rash wasn't visible. The first doctor I saw totally missed it.


Steph L. - May 25, 2017 6:31:18 pm PDT #370 of 8185
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated

Yeah, I'm wondering if there can be subclinical thrush, where you don't have all the symptoms (even the classic one of white tongue), but have some "lesser" symptoms that persist.


WindSparrow - May 25, 2017 6:35:06 pm PDT #371 of 8185
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

Would thrush cause a harsh reaction to an anti-fungal cream? I think the main reason the doc went with an antibiotic instead of starting with an anti-fungal or going with both is that every anti-fungal remedy I have tried - proper OTC cream or home remedy (except for colloidal silver, but I was not about to mention that to some doctor I don't know) - caused the rash to get worse rather than better.

ETA In the case of the otc antifungal cream, after it caused the rash to turn bright red and start bleeding, I did a patch test first on the inside of my elbow and then on the side of my face about two inches from my mouth. No reaction. So I'm not allergic. Maybe the thrush has taken over so much of the skin at the corners of my mouth and surrounding tissue that IT is all that's there, and IT is reacting in hyperpanic mode to the antifungal cream?


Steph L. - May 25, 2017 6:42:22 pm PDT #372 of 8185
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated

That sounds like an allergic reaction, rather than the thrush (or whatever it is) causing the reaction. I wonder if there's an ingredient that the topical treatments have in common that you reacted poorly to.

I wish there were a straightforward answer to this. How frustrating for you!

t oops -- you were editing about the possibility of an allergic reaction as I was typing this. So toss that possibility.


WindSparrow - May 25, 2017 6:46:11 pm PDT #373 of 8185
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

Steph L. - May 25, 2017 6:47:23 pm PDT #374 of 8185
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated

Andi, I can't remember -- have you tried cortisone cream? Because there might be some inflammation going on there that needs to be healed.


WindSparrow - May 25, 2017 6:55:38 pm PDT #375 of 8185
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

I tried hydrocortisone cream to soothe the reaction from the antifungal cream. It didn't seem to help much. Neither did benedryl cream.


Zenkitty - May 26, 2017 5:44:55 am PDT #376 of 8185
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

WS, you must be ready to rip your face off at this point. I'm sorry! Is the antibiotic working at all?


WindSparrow - May 26, 2017 7:07:21 am PDT #377 of 8185
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

Yes, I think it is. It's just a smidge smaller, and more pinkish than reddish.

I ordered garlic, oil of oregano, and olive leaf extract supplements to work against any systemic candida issues, along with a new toothbrush and sls-free toothpaste.


Zenkitty - May 26, 2017 8:44:04 am PDT #378 of 8185
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Good! Good idea, too. Lips~ma!