Everything looks good from here... Yes. Yes, this is a fertile land, and we will thrive. We will rule over all this land, and we will call it... 'This Land.' I think we should call it 'your grave!' Ah, curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal! Ha ha HA! Mine is an evil laugh! Now die! Oh, no, God! Oh, dear God in heaven!

Wash ,'Serenity'


Spike's Bitches 49: As usual, I'm here to help you, and I... are you naked under there?

Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


aurelia - Nov 01, 2017 5:31:34 pm PDT #2442 of 8216
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

Remember when I said I was scheduled to talk with the HR rep of a vendor about one of their guys being inappropriate? I got an email today from the owner of the company telling me that the guy in question would no longer be involved in work at my place of employment or with our staff (which is what I had asked for) and that all full time employees of his company will be going through cultural and gender sensitivity training. So hey, that's positive!

And just to keep things in balance, I realized today that I failed to renew my license plates. It would be an easy fix if I didn't have to get an emissions test before renewing. I doubt I'll be able to get that done before Saturday. I may have to drive to work the next two days to reduce the chances of being ticketed in the meantime.


SuziQ - Nov 01, 2017 6:27:04 pm PDT #2443 of 8216
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

CJ wants me to like guns as much as he does. I'm glad we went and I may go again, but I didn't get a rush from it. Yes, i got an adrenaline surge but in a bad tummy kind of way.

Crowley can't fit under my bed with his collar on, so he can't chase Noodle under there. Instead he pokes his head under one side, yips, runs to the other side, yips, jumps up on the bed, and repeat over and over again. This has been going on for the last week. I finally laid down to see what Noodle does during this frenzy of activity. Basically, she ignores him. If he pokes his head under and is too close to her, she will hiss. That is about it. Silly animals.


DavidS - Nov 02, 2017 7:25:56 pm PDT #2444 of 8216
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

CJ wants me to like guns as much as he does.

Yeah, I don't want anybody to like guns. I'm against handling a tool whose primary purpose is to kill other humans.

I've come to the not popular opinion that "responsible gun owners' is a bullshit thing which propagates and allows gun culture, and is the open-gate that allows massacres.

You know where they don't have responsible gun owners? Australia. Because they took the fucking guns away.

Do you know where they say a precipitous decline in gun massacres? Again, Australia.

This is causal, not a correlation.

I completely understand why it's a rush to have such power in your hand.

But the enjoyment/false security you get from that play is what allows the other shit.

I'm sure it would be a huge rush to use a flamethrower, or own a loaded tank. But we don't let people do that for reasons.

I am that asshole that would take all the guns away. And I am very confident that my gross executive fiat would be beneficial to the USA. Very simply, things would be better if lethal power was not doled out to so many idiots and crazy people.


Connie Neil - Nov 02, 2017 9:03:22 pm PDT #2445 of 8216
brillig

And, of course, many perfectly reasonable people are free to disagree with you.


DavidS - Nov 02, 2017 10:00:43 pm PDT #2446 of 8216
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

And, of course, many perfectly reasonable people are free to disagree with you.

1. The legal door you walk through to play with a weapon of lethal force is the same door that Paddock walked through to kill and wound the people in Las Vegas. To participate in gun culture is to validate and endorse it.

2. Gun culture is racist. And I"ll break that down into two parts. First, it's a grotesque expression of white privilege that is not allowed to other races. A black man who picks up a toy gun in a department store will (and has been) shot and killed. A black man who is legally licensed to own a gun in an open carry state will (and has been) shot and killed in his car. Second, stoking racist fears is the chief marketing strategy of manufacturers. In fact, it's pretty clear that the chief tool of white supremacists to enforce their terror is guns.

3. Guns are the primary tool of violence against women. How do women get murdered? In their own home, usually by their husband. Or their ex-husband. Or their boyfriend or ex-boyfriend. By a vast multiplicative factor, women are killed by men that they know. At home. By a gun. And that doesn't even begin to talk about living under the threat of a gun-owning partner.

4. Massacres are highly profitable. There is nothing false or misleading in the following statement: When you buy ammunition you fund the industry that profited from the murder of children at Sandy Hook. Gun sales go UP after massacres. There is not only NO incentive to stop massacres, the gun industry actively opposes limiting gun access to people with mental illness.

5. When you buy ammunition, guns, go to gun shows, join gun clubs - you are supporting the NRA. You don't have to be a member of the NRA to fund it. The NRA gets plenty of lobby support from the industry.

6. Gun culture and gun ownership are anti-democratic. The NRA has stoked the racist fears of its base so there's a highly militarized, authoritarian gun ownership culture eager to suppress black votership, oppose federally elected powers, take it to the streets if Trump is impeached.

You cannot own a gun, go shooting at a range, keep it in your home without supporting these things. And I mean that in the literal sense that you are funding them.


Laura - Nov 03, 2017 3:45:12 am PDT #2447 of 8216
Our wings are not tired.

I get all of that and I personally won't own a gun. That said I also was brought up in a hunting environment. I don't eat meat myself, but many of my family and friends hunt for food. My niece barely goes to a grocery store between her gardening and hunting efforts.

My big thing is the hunters have to get a license, but don't have to demonstrate the ability to hit a target, or know the safety rules or even how to clean their weapons. Common sense says you can't drive a car without showing you can stay in a lane. I can't see why you can own a gun without demonstrating competency.

I can also see, but don't endorse, the need for personal safety. But again, the owner should have to demonstrate competency so they don't shoot their neighbor.


Burrell - Nov 03, 2017 4:29:48 am PDT #2448 of 8216
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

I agree Laura, that people don't have to show competency in terms of skills or knowledge of gun safety seems madness to me. It seems like such a basic and reasonable ask in a country that has enshrined the right to own guns. But ALL the gun owners in my family, every single last one of them, would disagree with me on that one, and they live that belief by not keeping their guns and ammo in a locked safe, instead they keep loaded guns in various insecure places like by their nightstand and in their cars or on a rack by the door, etc.


Laura - Nov 03, 2017 5:30:18 am PDT #2449 of 8216
Our wings are not tired.

That is really horrifying, Burrell.

I remember well my dad always cleaning his rifles outside, and we never had a clue where he hid the ammo. There was one time when he was alone at our Otter Lake house on a hunting trip and he cleaned his rifle inside because the weather was awful. He ended up putting a shot through the wall and bed headboard. We mocked him about it for years because he was always so diligent about safety.


lisah - Nov 03, 2017 7:34:30 am PDT #2450 of 8216
Punishingly Intricate

they live that belief by not keeping their guns and ammo in a locked safe, instead they keep loaded guns in various insecure places like by their nightstand and in their cars or on a rack by the door, etc.

This makes me so very angry. Like, you may be fine but your're putting everyone around you in danger!


Gudanov - Nov 03, 2017 8:02:08 am PDT #2451 of 8216
Coding and Sleeping

Yeah, people need to treat guns like dangerous things and not like lifestyle accessories. If nothing else, if you have kids in your house at all, your guns need to be locked away.